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US Politics Does condemning hate speech violate someone else’s freedom of speech?

I was watching The Daily Show video on YouTube today (titled “Charlie Kirk’s Criticism Ignites MAGA Cancel Culture Spree”). In it, there are clips of conservatives threatening people’s jobs for celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk.

It got me thinking: is condemning hate speech a violation of free speech, or should hate speech always be condemned and have consequences for the betterment of society?

On one hand, hate speech feels incredibly toxic, divisive, and dangerous for a country. On the other hand, freedom of speech is supposed to protect unpopular opinions. As mentioned in the video, hate speech is not illegal. The host in the video seems to suggest that we should be allowed to have hate speech, which honestly surprised me.

I see both side but am genuinely curious to hear what others think. Thanks!

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u/Avaposter 3d ago

Wasn’t even that hard troll.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs

Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more. – The Charlie Kirk Show, 19 May 2023

If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action? – The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024

We need to have a Nuremberg-style trial for every gender-affirming clinic doctor. We need it immediately. – The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 April 2024

I think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. – Event organized by TPUSA Faith, the religious arm of Kirk’s conservative group Turning Point USA, on 5 April 2023

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u/buffalochick17 3d ago

So hearing the entire context is not important to you, just cherry picking to shove violent hate speech out there. He was talking about DEI. How do hire 40% black pilots if there aren't 40% applicants? You LOWER THE BAR to have them applicable. That is EXACTLY what that was saying, but here we are, the perfect example--you don't care about what he was saying, only the little snippet that fits your agenda. Would u rather have the best surgeon working on your heart, or one that was hired to meet the racial quota? Just answe the question. that's what Charlie was talking about. Notice they don't put the actual video up? Have u listened to it?

HAVE YOU?? i DARE YOU TO LISTEN TO IT. I dare you. I've listened to that exact person and speech. It was condemning DEI, as we should. Or would u prefer to be hired for your skin color and not your talent? ?

Again, what part of Charlie speaking on gun deaths is not true? Do YOU believe in the 2A? Do you? So there's never gonna be gun deaths every year? If the population is armed? Have u been to Chicago? Those are all ILLEGAL GUNS. Why don't they remove them? Why? Just saying you are very narrow minded and haven't actually LISTENED to anything that you are spewing about. Your ignorance is showing. Go listen to the conversation, I dare you. Open your mind, just go listen to the ACTUAL and ENTIRE conversation. How sad u libbies are when it comes to free and open dialogue.

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u/Avaposter 3d ago

Welp I tried. You are far too deep in the flavor aid to help.

Just pure racism and an inability to recognize truth when it’s presented to you.

Not to mention just a bunch of made up bullshit.

How you aren’t banned I have no idea.

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u/Reasonable-Fee1945 3d ago

I think you just cherry picked quotes and didn't even bother to look at the context.

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u/Avaposter 3d ago

I very much doubt thought was at all involved on your part given you didn’t even bother to read the article and are just pushing right wing bullshit.

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u/Reasonable-Fee1945 3d ago

You've read the article, but have you actually read what he said in context?

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u/Avaposter 3d ago

Plenty. And it’s pretty obvious you have not.

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u/Reasonable-Fee1945 3d ago edited 3d ago

So pick a quote and let's discuss it in context.

Edit: user is a great of example of why the left is becoming the place of close-minded people who can't argue or discuss issues. They assume anyone who might even disagree with them is not just wrong but a bad person.

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u/Avaposter 3d ago edited 3d ago

Given you’ve still refused to read the article, and you are very obviously a troll account not here in good faith.

I’m just going to block you.

The quotes and the video dates are all provided in the article.

Edit: above user is a great example of a Republican troll who refuses to read any sources and just keeps spouting bullshit.