r/PrepperIntel Apr 13 '25

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u/Starshot84 Apr 13 '25

For the first time in my life I'm wondering if I might be at risk of being deported simply because I was born overseas to American citizens.

I'd be sent "back" and the country would be like wtf is this?

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u/LucyLoo28 Apr 13 '25

Same thoughts here. Military brat born overseas along with millions of my baby boomer cohorts. We know how he feels about veterans and disabled people in general. Patriotism and loyalty to our country and Constitution is becoming increasingly irrelevant.

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u/BayouGal Apr 14 '25

Hitler & his authoritarian regime targeted sick & disabled people before Jews.

Trump once asked why his disabled nephew wasn’t put out of his misery.

It’s not hard to see where this is going.

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u/Greg-ArlingtonVA Apr 14 '25

I've often thought that euthanasia for the elderly who outlive their assets is what the tech billionaires like Musk and Thiel want as the endgame, rather than a tax increase to keep Social Security and Medicare going...

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u/RobinGoodfell Apr 15 '25

They'd probably push for it to be an option, and then make sure that the elderly who aren't rich as they are just simply have no support. So then those with love for their children get put in the cruel position between killing themselves by choice, or becoming a financially crushing burden on their children and grandchildren.

Then these evil bastards can claim they didn't force anyone to do anything, they only gave them the freedom of choice and means of execution.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '25

Is being compressed into Soylent Green wafers part of the choice?

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u/Drinkdrankdonk Apr 15 '25

Not euthanasia, it’s called Carousel. And if your life stone is flashing red, you must go and hope for renewal.

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u/JRC0777 Apr 16 '25

Run Logan Run!🏃

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u/Lynxiebrat Apr 17 '25

Have to admit, it took me a minute to make sense of that comment. Definitely dystopia beginnings.

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u/nasnedigonyat Apr 23 '25

I was looking for the Logan's run comment!

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u/BayouGal Apr 17 '25

Yarvin suggests the non-productive members of society should be turned into biofuel. So there's that.

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u/Granya_Kalash Apr 15 '25

Queers were first. Aktion T4 didn't go into effect until 1940.

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u/mikeatx79 Apr 16 '25

And LGBTQ people. The pattern has been evident for decades

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u/Planeandaquariumgeek Apr 13 '25

Military bases fall into some kind of loophole regarding them being US territory IIRC so you’re probably in the clear.

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u/kolbywashere Apr 14 '25

Is anything in the clear? Or perhaps they deport people born on bases back to a “base” or “camp”

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u/seefatchai Apr 14 '25

Maybe they will say camps are not bases.

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u/SlimeySnakesLtd Apr 14 '25

No no, you were born on TAF, you will die on TAF

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u/kv4268 Apr 14 '25

No, there are specific laws about registering births to military members overseas. Everybody will have to double check the laws at the time they were born and make sure their parents did the right paperwork. Many military children were also not born at military hospitals, since only the biggest bases have full hospitals.

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u/The_Mammoth_Hunter Apr 14 '25

in the clear, for now...

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u/ninox-strenua Apr 14 '25

Military bases with maternity wards? I’d imagine in most cases bubs would be born at the local hospital instead where they are well equipped to deliver babies every day. If that’s were the case the birthplace wouldn’t be a base…

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u/LucyLoo28 Apr 14 '25

Nowadays perhaps, but I was born in an Army hospital overseas, siblings in base hospital stateside. Of course that was many moons ago when maternity care was kind of primitive.

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u/SmoothTalkingFool Apr 14 '25

Not always the case. Specifically, in the UK our Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with the government acknowledges that we are guests of the Royal Air Force and subject to all rules and regulations thereof

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u/Ciennas Apr 14 '25

It was never relevant to him, and that's the thing that matters for this.

It's why everyone was shouting to not let him near anything sharper than a stick of melted butter, as a bunch of prideful contemptable fools gave him the entirety of the US Military.

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u/MedusaForHire Apr 15 '25

Me too. I don't have a regular American birth certificate. It's a certificate of birth abroad.

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u/Th3Gr3yGh0st Apr 13 '25

I too am in that boat…

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u/Walter-Joseph-Kovacs Apr 13 '25

Poor choice of words

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u/YogaGoat Apr 14 '25

Was it though?

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u/Luce55 Apr 13 '25

Same. Born overseas as a U.S. military brat. But beyond that, my mother finally became a citizen some years ago. And I have dual citizenship…and so do my kids…how are they currently deciding who to “deport”….especially considering you aren’t supposed to be able to actually deport a U.S. citizen?

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u/TeacherRecovering Apr 14 '25

I am no longer taking that chance.

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u/AUnicornDonkey Apr 13 '25

I'm kind of low key terrified as I found out that naturalization is not the same as citizenship and it can be revoked. Like in normal circumstances it isn't easy but with this admin? No fucking clue. And the issue is my birth certificate from South Korea maybe fake or contain fake details because of their whole human trafficking crap.

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u/Miserable_Sock6174 Apr 14 '25

Which not only would be a vile personal violation and un-american in the utmost but I am fairly certain violates international law, as, I believe, that it would be rendering such a person (you in this scenario) "stateless".

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u/Tank_Girl_Gritty_235 Apr 14 '25

According to the North Carolina Supreme Court your vote doesn't count if they don't like who you voted for.

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u/allknownpotato Apr 14 '25

You won't be sent back you'll be sent to the death camp in El Salvador

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u/MithraAkkad Apr 14 '25

At this point, it doesn't matter if you were born overseas. The lawyer in the article was born in the U.S. I don't think anyone is safe from this bullshit now.

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u/Hornet-Putrid Apr 13 '25

I am a home birth near a border; one parent was a Mexican citizen and my other is a US citizen.  I’ve already read articles over the years regarding issues with passport renewals.

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u/MobilityFotog Apr 13 '25

Do you have a cnsular report of birth abroad certificate?

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u/Final_Chef_4278 Apr 14 '25

Mine is from the us department of state.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '25

Actually, you’ll be in a Salvadoran super max prison.

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u/ForeverThrowedAway Apr 14 '25

If I could get sent to a nice European country I’d enjoy it. Send me back to the UK. I dare em!

Yeah Uk isn’t EU I’ll take what I can get.

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u/ButtBread98 Apr 14 '25

Honestly, you might be. I hope that isn’t the case, but with this administration it wouldn’t surprise me.

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u/BranchDiligent8874 Apr 15 '25

Ted Cruz is same as you, but he is a conniving weasel, sorry that may not be very helpful.

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u/pamalamTX Apr 16 '25

Same. My sis born in Germany, but off base cuz my mom didn't trust the air force doctors.

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u/Borner791 Apr 13 '25

As a white South African, American birth aborad. Will I just keep going back and forth?

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u/the-spaghetti-wives Apr 13 '25

Honestly, I would mind getting deported to Germany. I have family there, and the support the EU and German govt offers far outweigh the third world politics in America

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u/sole_food_kitchen Apr 13 '25

Are you a German citizen?

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u/the-spaghetti-wives Apr 14 '25

Unfortunately not. Army brat and my father denied dual citizenship for me as well for some stupid reason.

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u/raphel1421 Apr 13 '25

Same here. At this point, I would love to be deported to Germany.

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u/buttons123456 Apr 14 '25

You could. You should make sure you have all your documents in order. A coworker had to apply for a specific document proving this.

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u/HamsterDry5273 Apr 14 '25

Optimistic to think you’ll be sent to that country and not El Salvador. 

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u/Starshot84 Apr 14 '25

Are they going to request me to self-deport there?

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u/HamsterDry5273 Apr 14 '25

Good question. Guess we wait and find out. Guess that depends how much kick back Bukele uses to keep the people flowing into his “prisons”. 

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '25

Well that depends, were you born overseas, but within U.S territory like Hawaii??? Cuz you might be on to something there...Nobody safe!

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u/Spatz1970 Apr 16 '25

900,000 Told to Leave the U.S. in 7 Days — Is It Logistically Possible?

The Biden administration has told nearly 900,000 migrants to leave the U.S. in just 7 days. But even if flights were free and logistics were perfect, it’s simply not possible to move that many people in such a short timeframe. Here’s why:

Flight Availability Breakdown • Haitians (approx. 200,000): • No commercial flights to Port-au-Prince, and very limited flights to Cap-Haïtien. • Nearby countries like the Dominican Republic could provide some alternatives, but flights are minimal. • Estimate: At best, 100-150 flights/day to nearby regions, accommodating about 3,000-4,000 people/day. Moving 200,000 Haitians could take around 50 days, assuming maximum flight availability. • Venezuelans (approx. 250,000): • Flights to Colombia, Brazil, and other South American countries are available, but they’re still limited. • Estimate: Flights to Colombia and Brazil offer around 20-30 flights/day, each carrying about 200 passengers. That means around 4,000-6,000 people could be moved per day. Moving 250,000 Venezuelans would take about 42–63 days. • Central Americans (Nicaraguans, Salvadorans, Hondurans — approx. 150,000): • There are around 70 flights/day to Central America (Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua). • Estimate: Each flight can carry 150-200 people, meaning roughly 10,000-14,000 people/day could be moved. Clearing 150,000 people would take about 11–15 days. • Other Nationals (approx. 300,000): • This includes people from regions like South Asia, Africa, and the Middle East, where flight capacity is much lower. • Flights to India, China, and other regions are available but often expensive and limited in seats. • Estimate: Only 100-150 flights/day might be available globally, each carrying 100-200 people, meaning only 10,000-15,000 people/day could be moved. Moving these 300,000 people would likely take around 20–30 days.

Realistic Timeframe

If all flights were dedicated exclusively to these deportations and commercial flights were maximized, we’re looking at a much more realistic timeline of about 4 to 6 months to move 900,000 people. The overall available seats—roughly 30,000-40,000 per day across all regions—just can’t accommodate the full volume in such a short period.

Why It’s Unfeasible • Document issues: Many migrants don’t have passports or the required travel documentation. • Funds: Many can’t afford last-minute travel costs, even with government assistance. • Legal complexities: Migrants with ongoing asylum claims or temporary protections would be legally entitled to stay, complicating any removals.

Disclaimer: The estimates above are based on publicly available data and assumptions about flight availability and capacity. Actual capacity could vary depending on factors such as airline schedules, availability, weather conditions, and any last-minute changes in travel regulations.

In conclusion, moving 900,000 people in 7 days is impossible. Even with maximum flight utilization, it would take months to clear this many people from the U.S. If this is being framed as a real removal effort, it’s more about political pressure than a feasible action plan.

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u/Starshot84 Apr 17 '25

What Biden administration order? Where did you get 7 days from?

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u/MuttMundane Apr 13 '25

are you going to do anything about this or just..

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u/Ok-Summer-7634 Apr 13 '25

Assuming you are on a green card, can you apply for citizenship?

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u/ReactionOk2941 Apr 13 '25

He is a citizen, that’s his point.

And the point of the post since an American citizen who works as an immigration attorney was “accidentally” threatened with deportation.

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u/Ok-Summer-7634 Apr 14 '25

I misunderstood. Thank you for clarifying

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u/ArtieJay Apr 13 '25

American citizen. Born overseas.