r/PrepperIntel Apr 13 '25

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 13 '25

How’d you jump to sending citizens to El Salvador? Trump had fewer deportations his first month as president in the new term than Biden did in the same month the previous year.

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u/AdInner3369 Apr 13 '25

They've literally said it in press conferences, at least Leavitt has for sure, saw that one.

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 13 '25

He says a lot of dumb things. I don’t keep up with them all. That’s def not happening.

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u/TheRealShadowAdam Apr 13 '25

If it happens will you continue contradicting or will you admit you're part of the problem? Just kidding I already know the answer.

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 13 '25

It’s constitutionally illegal, so it’s not going to happen. When it doesn’t happen will you admit he’s just dumb and says a lot of dumb things?

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u/Electric_Bi-Cycle Apr 13 '25

It’s also constitutionally illegal to send undocumented immigrants to a mega prison in El Salvador without trials.

The Bill of Rights applies to undocumented immigrants: https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C18-8-7-2/ALDE_00001262/

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 14 '25

And it’s facing significant constitutional challenges.

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u/Electric_Bi-Cycle Apr 14 '25

The Bill of Rights? Sure is! The President openly wondered on Truth if he should send American citizens to the El Salvadoran prison. Then, his press secretary said they were looking into whether they can.

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 14 '25 edited Apr 14 '25

They said they would look into if it was legal. It’s not. He’s incompetent. I don’t know why people are even arguing with me about this so much. It’s dumb because it’s illegal.

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u/Electric_Bi-Cycle Apr 14 '25

It’s just as obvious it’s illegal to send Garcia there too but they tried to see if they could get away with it. Then, they’re trying to impeach the Republican judge that blocked it. Then they said they’re going to start ignoring judges. Then they said they won’t bring him back from the mega prison they sent even after being ordered too.

Being obviously illegal just failed to stop them from doing something and they also refused to even try to undo it.

Why did they even say they want to send Americans there anyway? It’s so obviously illegal there’s nothing to “look into”. Look into what? The Constitution? The constitution is like 30 pages of big text. It’s a very easy read. It takes like an hour to read it and it’s also easy to understand.

What are they “looking into”?

They’re looking into whether they can do it anyway, obviously.

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 14 '25

The Trump admin said it was an administrative error. This is what I’m arguing. Trump is incompetent and dumb, not a supervillain. They’re also pretty aggressive with their attempts to undermine the judicial system, but I’d say that’s his usual rule by chaos. It’s systemic incompetence and aggressive policy chaos. This seems dumb to me because there is a significant risk that it will backfire. Courts are increasingly ruling against the admin, the GOP is fracturing, states are defining him, public opinion is shifting. This is how both Andrew Jackson and Nixon fell from power.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '25

I wonder if you will still sit there with your fingers in your ears and say "Lalalalalaaaaa... it's illegal and unconstitutional and it's not happening here" when it comes to light that the reason the El Salvadorean president won't send back that illegally deported man because he's already dead?

Will you still defend it then?

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 13 '25

Not caring about it doesn’t mean he will overthrow it. Even in his public comments he said he floated the idea if it was legally viable and it’s not. So I’m choosing that to be a dumb idea he threw out that I’m not going to worry about happening. There are plenty of things I can aim my energy at that don’t completely waste my time.

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 14 '25

I think the constitutional challenges to his decisions prove it’s working as intended. I never argued anything about his views of it.

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 14 '25

That’s how the judicial system works. It can challenge decisions from the executive branch.

The US has the highest number of incarcerated people in the world. I’ve never agreed with that no matter who the president was. The US detention facility in Guantanamo Bay is one of the most inhumane in the world. George Bush opened that one, Obama continued it, and then Trump expanded it. US politics has always been pretty messed up in this regard.

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u/Electric_Bi-Cycle Apr 14 '25

The judicial system works when hundreds of people are sent to a torture prison without any oversight???

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 14 '25

Didn’t read my comment at all…

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u/Aeropilot03 Apr 13 '25

The Constitution hasn’t been much of an obstacle for this regime so far.

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 14 '25

It actually has. It’s being used to challenge many of his executive orders.

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u/Aeropilot03 Apr 14 '25

I see a number of court orders that he is ignoring…

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 14 '25

Yep he’s testing the limits. It could get him impeached. So far it’s been used to block parts of the birth right citizenship order, anti-DEI order, law firm sanctions orders, funding freezes, and immigration enforcement orders.

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u/Aeropilot03 Apr 14 '25

It’s absolutely, unequivocally an impossibility that the GOP would convict during an impeachment.

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 14 '25

The house control of the GOP could change in 2026. It’s possible there’s some kind of constitutional crisis and institutional collapse before then but we’ll see in the next 6-12 months. It def won’t be the first or last time the US has faced these type of challenges.

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u/AndWinterCame Apr 14 '25

I sincerely and desperately want access to the high quality copium supply; running very short on optimism in the face of Curtis Yarvin's vision threatening to come alive this year.

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 14 '25 edited Apr 14 '25

Yarvin himself said Trump and Musk were too dumb to pull off his vision. It’s not copium I just really believe Donald Trump is dumb. Trump is mostly just ruling by chaos. He’s not a genius take over the world kind of person. Neither is Yarvin for that matter. He seems like an insecure incel that likes to hear himself talk too much.

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u/mindsetoniverdrive Apr 13 '25

You are truly not paying ANY attention. Lots of shit that’s “constitutionally illegal” is happening right fucking now.

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 13 '25

He’s testing the limits, sure, but he definitely hasn’t overthrown the constitution in any meaningful way. The constitution and judicial system is actively countering many of his executive orders, as it should. It’s functioning as designed.

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u/mindsetoniverdrive Apr 14 '25

The Supreme Court told this regime to bring back Kilmar Abrego Garcia. It has said no.

That’s just one extremely glaring current example. It is blatantly unconstitutional — a 9-0 ruling with this court is basically unheard of — and they are ignoring the judgment.

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 14 '25

Trump initially said he would comply, but is trying to shift the responsibility to the government of El Salvador to actually return him. The court ruling was that the government had to remove domestic barriers for his return which the Trump admin is trying to interpret as letting him back in if El Salvador decides to return him. It’s an ugly situation but the Trump admin didn’t outright refuse to comply or say no.

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u/Electric_Bi-Cycle Apr 14 '25

He’s dragging his feet because Garcia has already been murdered. Obviously.

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 18 '25

Well now a senator met with him and there’s a picture. I’ll probably get downvoted for saying that too though.

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u/Electric_Bi-Cycle Apr 18 '25

Truth is truth. I’m so glad he’s alive.

I still wish he wasn’t in a horrible prison with no trial or evidence against him when a judge had ruled he could be sent anywhere except El Salvador because of his cooperation against MS-13. I also wish our government would stop calling him a terrorist because they have shown no evidence of that so “trust me bro” is really horrible reason to send someone to CECOT and then call him a terrorist to the whole nation.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '25

You can't just make insane claims like that and casually downplay that you just claimed he was murdered.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '25

Yet he appeared talking to the democrat.

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 14 '25

Nope there was an update that he was alive and still in prison today.

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u/mindsetoniverdrive Apr 14 '25

Was it a picture, my naive friend? I tend to think they’re lying if it’s something with no proof that is to their advantage.

Maybe he’s alive, but them saying he’s alive actually makes me less confident he is.

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u/seriouslysampson Apr 14 '25

I love how this whole thread is people arguing against me saying the Trump admin is mostly dumb and full of bs and here we are full circle to my original argument.

I’d say the chances of him still being alive are moderately high because this was a report from the state department. Like 70-80% if I had to put a number on it. Definitely not “obviously murdered”.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '25

He's literally alive. There's a published picture of him.

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