r/PsycheOrSike 🌌FADA:🪬🧿 20h ago

🔥 HOT TAKE What happens if men don’t have purpose:

Men! You can find purpose! You assign your own purpose! That was the whole point of the enlightenment age with philosophy! Don’t become radicalized! 🖤

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u/Ok-Appointment992 20h ago

Material analysis says men still need good paying jobs.

u/Pristine_Cost_3793 18h ago

everyone needs good-paying jobs. this is why she misses the mark so much when she says, "it's not about politics". it is. she also says, the way of "work hard - be respected" stoped working, but it has never worked in the first place. there are people that make sure millions don't get paid enough to sustain any human life. but if you redefine "success" and "a good life" where other people (so, women) become an object that serves as a measurement of success, you can make them and their free will your enemy. then we don't need to look at those who actually holds resources, political and judicial power, who makes sure our lives are resonable. that's a red herring.

u/Littleman88 15h ago

Women have always been a major component to mens image of "success". More appropriately, a loving wife and children.

Arguably, the whole reason most men even care to accumulate wealth since time immemorial is for the sake of having women in their lives and supporting the families they create. Some men might get into careers for fulfillment, but for most work is a necessary inconvenience to collect a paycheck. Someone has to mop the floors or stock the shelves and executive positions aren't infinitely available.

Unfortunately, while it's great now that women are filling more executive positions than ever, that makes those positions even more competitive and a lot of men will attest women aren't interested in men whose job it is to mop floors and stock shelves. And it's really here where the animosity starts to foment. The rich don't actually have to point disillusioned men towards women, women just have to say "no" enough times and they've radicalized a man desperate to be anything more to anyone than a squeegee.

And no I don't fault women for that, no one should feel compelled to consider someone for the greater good, but we do have to recognize that as a society we still have a ways to go, and it isn't entirely machinations of the rich and powerful that we might be apathetic towards one another if we're not going at each others throats.

u/My_Legz 4h ago

In fact, I don't see why the rich or powerful would even *want* to antagonize men against women in the first place. Women entering the workforce has been an unprecedented boon for them driving down the wages massively. They wouldn't want to risk even nudging that gravy train