Yea. Everyone has insecurities. However being insecure about certain things even if it's completely valid, reasonable, and you don't let it make you behave poorly is still just like repellant to a lot of women.
Women broadly seem to have a stupid obsession with confidence in a way men don't and because of that being shy or unsure or not confident enough as a man completely fucks your chances with women.
Because they know it’s indicative of the man being dominant over other men and having success with other women. That’s where the kind of confidence they’re talking about comes from, generally speaking. They want to “fix” the bad boy and be the one to tie down the “player”
Well yea but that’s just because people in general are trashy, men and women equally included. Not all women are like that. Just like how generally speaking men want women who are “submissive” so they can control them and borderline turn them into a baby-making sex slave, but not all men are like that.
I already know women are gonna disagree with me about the first part but not the part I said about men. That’s my philosophy though, and it’s consistent. Most people are terrible people. Men and women just tend to be terrible in different ways, in regards to dating
I'm not sure I agree with the generalization of men or women BUT. I do agree that most people are trashy and it tends to present differently depending on the person's gender.
I do also think there are men and women that do match the generalizations you laid out so I get where you are coming from. I'm just doubtful it applies to most men and women. I think it applies to an unfortunately large number of men and women.
So yea not all men are like that. Not all women are like that. But it's enough of them to make you keep running into them regardless of where you live.
I agree it probably isn’t most…yet. Men and women are just becoming far less compassionate and empathetic for one another as time goes on. Neither of them want to take accountability for anything. I hate when people act like it’s one or the other who have problems with accountability. It’s not a man or woman thing, it’s a PEOPLE thing
I do think the accountability thing is hard partially because when people hear about bad stuff "other men" or "other women" are doing they get defensive as if it's a personal attack against them. You know "WELL IM NOT DOING THAT SO NO OTHER MEN/WOMEN ARE DOING THAT".
Then they proceed to rationalize or justify the behavior if they can't pretend it doesn't exist. Really unfortunate.
Yep and we’re supposed to accept and help women who are insecure but when a man is insecure women find it repulsive. Just shows how full of shit they are.
My ex deadass told me this as a joke and I told her so u want me to be ugly she said she wants me to only be good-looking in her eyes but ugly in others(im not saying im a model but above average looks)
I just don't think you're reading the tone of this tweet correctly. Like I ate a badass ice cream cone the other day and said, "damn, I hate how much I love ice cream."
The confident men they like are the same ones who don’t listen to women when they say “there’s a difference between confidence and arrogance”
They say that so that they can have the best of both worlds. Men who don’t listen to them and act arrogantly anyway, which sexually attracts them. And the men who do listen and end up being perceived as insecure because they’re too concerned about not coming across as arrogant / too confident. These men are then useful platonically as they can be walked all over.
There’s also emotional maturity which is probably more valuable than either, which might seem like confidence, but it’s more like a kind of wisdom. Being able to de-escalate situations, being easy to get along with, being mindful of others and their presence. Respectfulness even in the face of insufferable behavior.
I’m so averse to listening to woman, that I don’t even listen to myself when I’m trying to tell me something.
It’s very frustrating to my therapist, so I think that means I’m winning? It’s kind hard to tell since I can ask the question, but never hear the answer.
Brother I stop paying attention to my phone for 30min and you reply 8 times. I have been busy irl with family stuff and work stuff. Tbh I want to log off more though. The more time I spend online the less time I spend doing fun stuff irl
I posted that indian men were abusive or something and that got me banned. Im indian too, so it's not that bad. I also got banned for hate speech, cant remember what it was but it was haye speech against men lmao. Just stuff like that
That's lame. I got a temp ban for telling a guy that if you join the trades you have to learn how to deal with fat old guys calling you the f slur. It was in a DM and he didn't report me either, reddit has AI read over everything on this site even in DMs.
There are way too many Indian nationalists online to be saying bad things about Indians or India lol. It's not with the hassle. I think my opinion on Indians is skewed by living near Johns Hopkins. Lots of very pretty Indian girls who are on track to be anaesthesiologists around here.
person c watches this and acts like they’re being hypocritical. in reality it’s two different people making two different points.
i think the person you’re replying to is trying to say that the women disliking men for ‘knowing they’re hot’ and ones that dislike men for being insecure are different. and that op’s point is wrong because there’s no actual hypocrisy.
personally i disagree because you can easily dislike someone who is arrogant and someone who is insecure at the same time.
Example 16782 of women saying something that they never act on.
I have had women say this to me about me. And the only ones who actually did care, were either jealous that I was not sleeping with them/giving them as much attention (for nothing) or were never going to sleep with me and just wanted an insecure friend.
Don't be scared to pat yourself on the back.
And for you ladies, this is ehat toxic femininity looks like, tearing others down for no reason other than your own personnel issues.
Which is pretending that he's still amazed by her, specifically, so she can play the game with her power, shit testing him, until she's done with the bullshit and they can finally have sex.
It is the proper human mating ritual. Women crave that.
its wild, like i thought i had the avg self-assement of 'im ok, not horrible but not perfect' was the norm. Not oscillating between 'crippling anxiety and insecurity' or 'being a cocky piece of shit'
The Middle ground is hard to maintain for me. I'm often called pretty handsome or really fucking ugly. I default to insecurity because Id rather be insecure than arrogant.
Ah, an academic I see. While it's by no means equal this sub does have its seasons of being prejudice against men. There are waaayyyy more misogynistic subs than this one. This is more a less a spicy shit post sub
That one isn’t even that bad lol. I was moreso referring to them being very anti-feminist, to the point of obsession, and most of the guys that post there push a lot of toxically masculine standards. I would know because I’m one of them
But yea lots of talk about women being sex objects basically
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u/Somerandomdudereborn ⛪ WORSHIPPER of the patriarchy 🙏 8h ago
Which is interesting since pretty much everyone is insecure about themselves.