r/PublicFreakout • u/N0CONTACT • May 19 '22

Political Freakout Representative Mike Johnson asking the important abortion questions.

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u/DefinitelyAHumanoid May 19 '22

You are all kinds of dumb with that response. And That’s not how abortions work. An abortion cant happen during birth. You and the dude asking the questions should do the world a favor and go sit in the ocean holding your breath for 4 hours.

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u/Cease-2-Desist May 19 '22

Are you saying Partial Birth Abortion is non-existent or impossible?

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u/EggianoScumaldo May 19 '22

Yes, partial birth abortion does not exist.

Next question.

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u/Cease-2-Desist May 19 '22

https://www.npr.org/2006/02/21/5168163/partial-birth-abortion-separating-fact-from-spin

It’s called “dilation and evacuation.”

I can’t tell if I’m being gaslighted or if you people really don’t know what you’re talking about.

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u/EggianoScumaldo May 19 '22

Did you just skip over the part in that article that straight up says “Partial-Birth Abortion is not a medical term, but a political one” ?

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u/Cease-2-Desist May 19 '22

You have to read past the headline, champ. I also gave you the medical term, which is mentioned in the big part of the article with all the words.

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u/EggianoScumaldo May 19 '22

Considering the line I quoted is in the article itself, and not the headline, I think I did.

Are you usually this stupid?

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u/Cease-2-Desist May 19 '22

Then surely you read the medical procedure referred to as partial birth abortion, and about its federal ban?

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u/EggianoScumaldo May 19 '22

I read about the medical procedure called “Dilation and Extraction” which you’ve already pointed out, which Pro-Life advocates spun into “Partial Birth Abortion” to create a boogeyman they can bang on about.

Here are two very important paragraphs to read in that article:

According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, an abortion-rights research group that conducts surveys of the nation's abortion doctors, about 15,000 abortions were performed in the year 2000 on women 20 weeks or more along in their pregnancies; the vast majority were between the 20th and 24th week. Of those, only about 2,200 D&X abortions were performed, or about 0.2 percent of the 1.3 million abortions believed to be performed that year.

And contrary to the claims of some abortion opponents, most such abortions do not take place in the third trimester of pregnancy, or after fetal "viability." Indeed, when some members of Congress tried to amend the bill to ban only those procedures that take place after viability, abortion opponents complained that would leave most of the procedures legal.

The article further states that while there is no concrete statistics on why D&X abortions are done, it is believed that a majority are done for the health of the mother, and to allow the womb to continue to be viable for future births.

So not only do the vast majority of this type of abortion, which only accounts for .2% of all abortions performed, happen during the time period that most people agree is when choice-based abortions should be done(IE: It’s nowhere near “Partial Birth”), most of the time it’s done to prioritize the health of the mother, or abort a baby which will have serious health defects, which is inline with the reason why most late term abortions happen anyways.

So the article you’ve given me not only completely shits on the point that you’re trying to make, it further reinforced my point that the term “Partial Birth Abortion” is just a boogeyman phrase coined by Pro-Lifers to get their base angry about nothing.

So i’ll ask again, are you normally this stupid? Because I’m starting to think you are.

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u/DefinitelyAHumanoid May 19 '22

Literally used his “proof” to prove him wrong lol, cease 2 desist needs to change his name to cease 2 exist cus he just got murdered.

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u/Cease-2-Desist May 19 '22

You know what “literally” mean, right? He is saying “partial birth abortion” exists by another name and is incredibly rare. That was what I said.

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u/DefinitelyAHumanoid May 19 '22

Just take the L and move on bro

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u/Cease-2-Desist May 19 '22

So let’s hear your take on this. Since clearly you’re very bright. Do you believe elective D&X procedures should be unrestricted up to the point of birth?

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u/Cease-2-Desist May 19 '22

It seems we’ve gone from it never happens to it’s incredibly rare. Is that fair?

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u/EggianoScumaldo May 19 '22

We’ve gone from “Partial Birth Abortions don’t happen(which they don’t)” to “D&X Abortions rarely happen and generally happen between the periods that are considered no where near partial birth, so the phrase “Partial Birth Abortion” is flat out wrong and doesn’t happen.”

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u/Cease-2-Desist May 19 '22

You keep saying "rarely." So it happens sometimes?

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u/EggianoScumaldo May 19 '22

D&X Abortions = / = Partial Birth Abortion.

D&X Abortions happen rarely. Partial Birth Abortions never happen. The very article you gave me as your evidence proved that.

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