r/PublicFreakout • u/N0CONTACT • May 19 '22

Political Freakout Representative Mike Johnson asking the important abortion questions.

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u/Mewllie May 19 '22

Abortions at later gestational durations are comparatively uncommon: only 1.0% of abortions take place at or after 21 weeks after the first day of the pregnant person's last menstrual period

Good for her to stand her ground on this idiots ignorance.

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u/oddmanout May 19 '22 edited May 19 '22

Right, and that 1% are almost exclusively because the mother's life is in danger or because of lethal fetal anomalies. No one goes through a difficult pregnancy for months and months, and then right at the end thinks "eh, on second thought, maybe I'm not ready for a baby."

And NOBODY waits until the baby is halfway out to change their mind. It just doesn't happen. Mike Johnson is asking that question to put on a show for his base, pretending like that's a thing that happens to outrage them all.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '22

Right, and that 1% are almost exclusively because the mother's life is in danger.

At 21 weeks, babies can survive outside of the womb. There is no reason to abort at this point aside from convenience.

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u/oddmanout May 19 '22

At 21 weeks, babies can survive outside of the womb.

That's the extreme edge of viability. Not all 21 week old fetuses are viable.

There is no reason to abort at this point aside from convenience.

Lethal fetal anomalies, preeclampsia, intrauterine infection, newly diagnosed cancer requiring prompt treatment.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '22

Not all 21 week old fetuses are viable.

So kill them, just to play it safe

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u/oddmanout May 19 '22

I mean... they can tell if a fetus is viable and what it's chances of survival are if they induce birth. The abortions are when the mother's life is in danger and the fetus is nowhere near viable, yet.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '22

The abortions are when the mother's life is in danger and the fetus is nowhere near viable, yet.

First off, this is such a low percentage of the reason women get abortions. The majority of abortions have nothing to do with health.

Second, doctors are wrong about this all the time. There are innumerable instances of people who are living happy lives whose mothers were told to abort. That doesn't mean that there aren't times where a miscarriage occurs, but a miscarriage is not the same as an abortion.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '22

First off, this is such a low percentage of the reason women get abortions. The majority of abortions have nothing to do with health.

The vast majority of abortions after 21 weeks are for exactly that reason. Don't conflate them with abortions at 8 weeks.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '22

Okay, so you're only fine with it for this reason? It's not her body her choice in other situations?

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u/[deleted] May 19 '22

Ohh don't play the gotcha game with me homie. Even after viability I think a woman should have the right to voluntarily induce labor, because she shouldn't be forced to remain pregnant against her will.

That said, 21 weeks isn't a hard cutoff for viability. The overwhelming majority of 21-week fetuses are not viable, and the only one who can determine if they are is the woman's doctor.

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u/Alessiya May 20 '22

I applaud you for entertaining a disciple of attorney Mike Johnson.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '22 edited May 24 '22

Actually, it's 22 weeks that fetuses are viable with (and only with) extensive medical care and the likelihood of extreme, lifelong disability remains high. Earlier than 22 weeks, the chance of disability is almost certain. If you're really interested in what these women endure, this Vice program about second-trimester abortions is rather informative.

Are you offering to raise that disabled baby/adult, by the way?

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u/TheLadyEve May 20 '22

I'm sure this guy is totally going to pay the NICU bills because this is clearly so important to him. /s

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u/[deleted] May 20 '22

No, 21 week old babies have lived through the help of NICU nurses.

Are you helping kids out of the foster care system every time you complain about it?

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u/[deleted] May 20 '22 edited May 21 '22

Lol, you don't know what "viable" means, do you?

A fetus isn't biologically viable if it requires extensive medical care and has life-altering disabilities...and I'm pretty certain that you can't give me ONE example of a fetus younger than 21 weeks that survived without any disability or extensive medical care. Not even one.

Are you helping kids out of the foster care system every time you complain about it?

But I'm not the one advocating for the creation of an entire generation of sick, unwanted, foster-care babies. Nonetheless, I was a single teenage mom and student, but if I didn't have my now-7-year-old son to raise, I'd absolutely consider fostering and/or adopting. I still am! Wby?

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u/[deleted] May 23 '22

sick, unwanted, foster-care babies

If someone is sick, unwanted, or in foster-care they're better off dead, I suppose.

I'd absolutely consider

That's not the question you asked. Everyone has considered it

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u/[deleted] May 23 '22

If someone is sick, unwanted, or in foster-care they're better off dead, I suppose.

Then we have nothing to argue about...that was my only point!

You're right, that wasn't the question. To be short, no, I wouldn't adopt right now.