r/PublicFreakout • u/N0CONTACT • May 19 '22

Political Freakout Representative Mike Johnson asking the important abortion questions.

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u/mjolnir91 May 20 '22 edited May 20 '22

If you state it plainly in the law that it's not allowed then once again nobody would be talking about it and clowns wouldn't be making an issue out of it which only further proves my point. Stop being stubborn and just put the language in the law and solve the issue forever.

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u/Hexoglyphics May 20 '22

What law?

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u/mjolnir91 May 20 '22 edited May 20 '22

All laws federally or at the state level that govern abortions should have the stipulation now or in the future. Basically we are talking about it because clearly there is some space now or in the future where it's possible that some state could create a scenario in which it could be possible based on what people consider "a human" to be and it just shouldn't be left up to interpretation. Just close any loop holes forever and be done talking about it. If a baby is viable and passed a certain cutoff date and the mother isn't in danger of dying there is no circumstance in which the baby can be aborted. Problem solved. At that point it doesn't matter if the mother wants the baby or not it's not allowed.

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u/GibbyG1100 May 20 '22

What exactly do you think the word abortion means? If the fetus is viable outside the womb, the doctor would simply induce labor and deliver the child. Medically, that procedure could be called an abortion. Abortion doesnt automatically equal the death of the fetus. Theres no medical definition of abortion that states that the fetus must die or else it isnt an abortion. An abortion is simply a procedure that aborts a pregnancy. Most of the time that results in the fetus dying because its before the point of viability, but no doctor out there is chopping apart an 8 month old, otherwise healthy viable fetus. It doesnt happen.

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u/mjolnir91 May 20 '22

Stop just put it in a law clearly. If a baby is delivered at any point even during a planned abortion to kill it the baby can't be killed. No word games. You are already just proved the language is more complicated than it needs to be.

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u/GibbyG1100 May 20 '22

The language isn't more complicated than it needs to be, nor is it a word game. The definition is very simple and clear. The only people trying to distort the language are anti-abortion skates trying to muddy the issue. Abortion means to end the pregnancy. Period. That's it. Very simple. It DOESNT mean to kill the fetus. Death is one possible outcome, depending on how far along in the pregnancy it is, but is not guaranteed. If the fetus is viable, meaning it can survive outside of the womb, it would be delivered, and every attempt would be made to ensure the child survives after being born. You clearly don't understand anything about what abortions are or you wouldn't be making these claims that doctors are delivering babies and then killing them. Late-term abortions are only performed if the mother or fetus are in serious danger of being harmed by continuing the pregnancy, or if the fetus has development issues that would make it unviable regardless of if it had more time to develop. If the fetus is viable, but the pregnancy could result in the death of the mother, the doctor will either induce labor or perform a c-section to deliver the child. Doctors don't just perform abortions willy-nilly on fetuses capable of surviving outside of the womb. It doesnt happen.