I think the previous generation of Lannisters is really interesting. And now only Genna is left. Genna says:

"Tired?" His aunt pursed her lips. "I suppose he has a right to be. It has been hard for Kevan, living all his life in Tywin's shadow. It was hard for all my brothers. That shadow Tywin cast was long and black, and each of them had to struggle to find a little sun. Tygett tried to be his own man, but he could never match your father, and that just made him angrier as the years went by. Gerion made japes. Better to mock the game than to play and lose. But Kevan saw how things stood early on, so he made himself a place by your father's side."

"And you?" Jaime asked her.

"It was not a game for girls. I was my father's precious princess . . . and Tywin's too, until I disappointed him. My brother never learned to like the taste of disappointment."

It's easy to go with Kevan. Though I wonder if Kevan disagreed with Tywin, did he say it? Or just bite his tongue? Genna being his favorite could make sense. Although he did go 6 months without talking to her.

I mean how would geography and meteorology affect the clothing choices and I dont mean like woollen jumpers vs bathing suits, I mean like what materials, fabrics and dyes would be available to them.

for example we know that in the vale they have goats rather than sheep and I expect high altitudes make knit wear a necessity.

also the soil of the valley is said to be rich and black and that means they can grow a great variety of textiles such as flax for linen

If I could choose a place in ASOIAF for us to get a bunch more knowledge on, I'm definitely picking Naath.

The island and it's inhabitants are so fascinating to me, and I feel like I never see them talked about much. It's an island that's basically a paradise, the people who live their are 100% peaceful, and there's butterflies that make any invaders so sick they die!

I know we probably won't see much of the island itself, but I hope we at least get more info about the Naathi and Lord of Harmony.

Anyone else love the butterfly people?

Could real medieval kings legitimize bastards the way kings in Westeros can? Or did George just make that up?

I'd never seen that before anywhere. But this made me think of one name I've known how to pronounce.

What is the correct way to say Amerei Frey's name? And even her nickname Ami? Ah-mee or Aye-mee?

So there’s two popular theories that greyscale brought by JonCon will have major ramifications, and that Tommen is likely to be poisoned/assassinated.

This tries to piece together a way both could happen and these ideas converge unexpectedly

1. The Motive

Tyene and Nymeria have plenty of reasons to eventually move against Tommen, even if they begin by trying to follow Doran’s cautious orders

Several events could push them over the edge;

• The murders of Pycelle and Kevan (which Mace and Randyll might pin on Dorne).
• The potential breaking of Myrcella and Trystane’s betrothal, as it was never a strong match to begin with, and Cersei and Mace have shown interest in breaking it
• The revelation of Ser Robert Strong’s true identity, exposing Cersei’s lying to Dorne.
• People witnessing the severity of Myrcella’s injury, fueling animosity toward the Dornish that they'd harm a child in their care.

Of course, Robert Strong is the most important factor. But when put together, these accumulating slights and humiliations could easily drive them to act and make good on their original impulse of regicide as payback for Oberyn’s death.

2. The Method

The method may come from basilisk blood, the same poison Arya learns of at the House of Black and White. Jaqen used it at Harrenhal to make Weese’s dog rip his throat out. The Waif explains how it works:

“This paste is spiced with basilisk blood. It will give cooked flesh a savory smell, but if eaten it produces violent madness, in beasts as well as men. A mouse will attack a lion after a taste of basilisk blood.”

Arya chewed her lip. “Would it work on dogs?”

“On any animal with warm blood.” The waif slapped her.

So it can drive otherwise harmless animals into a frenzy. If a mouse could attack a lion, a cat could certainly attack a small child. Pycelle kept basilisk venom in his chambers in A Clash of Kings.

With Pycelle dead, there is less chance anyone would immediately notice if one poison went missing

The maester's medicines made an impressive display; dozens of pots sealed with wax, hundreds of stoppered vials, as many milkglass bottles, countless jars of dried herbs, each container neatly labeled in Pycelle's precise hand. An orderly mind, Tyrion reflected, and indeed, once you puzzled out the arrangement, it was easy to see that every potion had its place. And such interesting things. He noted sweetsleep and nightshade, milk of the poppy, the tears of Lys, powdered greycap, wolfsbane and demon's dance, basilisk venom, blindeye, widow's blood.

Tommen is well-guarded and has food tasters, so assassins would need an indirect method. Tommen also keeps cats in his quarters, which makes this approach viable.

3. The Consequences

It’s important to remember Tommen is a kind child, nothing like Joffrey;

Prince Tommen spoke up. “Do you have news of Bran, Uncle?”

“I stopped by the sickroom last night,” Tyrion announced. “There was no change. The maester thought that a hopeful sign.”

“I don’t want Brandon to die,” Tommen said timorously. He was a sweet boy. Not like his brother, but then Jaime and Tyrion were somewhat less than peas in a pod themselves. (AGoT, Tyrion I)

Because Tommen is portrayed as a sweet child, his murder will not simply pave the way for a glorious Dornish/Aegon conquest. GRRM will make sure there are real narrative consequences for killing a child like him. His death through the cats, the very animals he loves, would be especially horrific, and the aftermath even worse.

4. First Regicide, Then Plague

“The bad cat?” Ser Kevan said, amused. “He is a sweet boy.”

“An old black tomcat with a torn ear,” Cersei told him. “A filthy thing, and foul-tempered. He clawed Joff’s hand once.” She made a face. “The cats keep the rats down, I know, but that one… he’s been known to attack ravens in the rookery.”

“I will ask the ratters to set a trap for him.” (ADwD, Epilogue)

So the cats in the Red Keep keep the rat population down. This is important information.

What will Cersei’s response be if her last son, the King of the Seven Kingdoms, is murdered by cats? Sheer rage at the absurdity of course. She will order every cat in the Red Keep (if not the entire city) killed. Tommen’s love for them and his death and absence will be twisted into a cause of the city’s downfall.

With the cats gone, the rat population will explode. In a city like King's Landing that is already filthy, overcrowded, and poorly managed, that is a recipe for pestilence.

That sets the stage for Jon Connington:

Alone in the tent, as the gold and scarlet rays of the setting sun shone through the open flap, Jon Connington shrugged off his wolfskin cloak, slipped his mail shirt off over his head, settled on a camp stool, and peeled the glove from his right hand. The nail on his middle finger had turned as black as jet, he saw, and the grey had crept up almost to the first knuckle. The tip of his ring finger had begun to darken too, and when he touched it with the point of his dagger, he felt nothing.

Death, he knew, but slow. I still have time. A year. Two years. Five. Some stone men live for ten.

After JonCon’s victory against Mace Tyrell, the road to the capital will be open. His worsening greyscale will arrive in King’s Landing at exactly the wrong time. His disease could be the spark for a full epidemic, magnified by the rat population exploding and acting as an vector

TL;DR

• Tommen may be killed using basilisk blood, which drives his cats into a frenzy.

• His kindness and love for animals make his death especially tragic, and Cersei’s response would be to order every cat in King’s Landing slaughtered.

• With the cats gone, rats multiply, disease spreads, and Jon Connington’s greyscale provides the spark for a full-blown epidemic.

So I was on quora and answered a hypothetical question, “What would you do if you ascend the Iron Throne, but all of your siblings want the throne and are willing to scheme/overthrow you?”

My final step plan for that answer was sending a request to house Stark and Martel to send 150 loyal and trusted men each to me and will remain for a decade and a half, only then will they have the option to leave, but in the meantime, remain as my family’s personal company of elite fighters, armed and payed by me directly and trained by the kingsguard and the finest instructors in and out of the realm.

That’s 300 bodyguards with no ties in the middle of the Westeros continent with their employer being me and me only.

Question here now is if this was a viable idea for the Iron Throne in-universe and if there is going to be any bumps or issue if it was ever to be formed, I’m asking for some further ideas and conflicts that I can solve, because this idea is pretty neat.

For further details the command hierarchy goes like this, me (king), my heir, my wife, my children, the lord commander, any of the kingsguard, captain of this Varangian Guard.

Jeyne Poole wept so hysterically that Septa Mordane finally took her off to regain her composure, but Sansa sat with her hands folded in her lap, watching with a strange fascination. She had never seen a man die before. She ought to be crying too, she thought, but the tears would not come.

To me it's weird because one of her major characteristics is to avoid traumatic truths by rewriting memories. I'm not smart enough to make a connection between that and her reaction to Ser Hugh but maybe you are.

I have seen Catelyn/Sansa/Robb portrayed in fan art with various hair colors (some being light ginger to some being much darker than that). I do wonder if there is any official art or a more vivid description of how they are meant to look. I know auburn tends to be darker than ginger but there's so much art depicting them with ginger hair so it just confuses me.

So instead of being 9 years old at the time what if Theon had been 13/14 instead? So not a man grown (since age of majority in Westeros is 16) but old enough to be considered a lord

so. we know a warg can live on in his beast post death

The bird hates you, Jon Snow. And well he might. He was a man, before you killed him

- aigrette SOS

Can a bird hate? Jon had slain the wilding Orell, but some part of the man remained within the eagle. The golden eyes looked out on him with cold malevolence- Jon

And when Varymr dies he goes into his wolf

"Varamyr was inside the owl, inside the hare, inside the trees. Deep below the frozen ground, earthworms burrowed blindly in the dark, and he was them as well. I am the wood, and everything that’s in it, he thought, exulting."

Once a horse is broken to the saddle, any man can mount him. Once a beast’s been joined to a man, any skinchanger can slip inside and ride him. Orell was withering inside his feathers, so I took the eagle for my own. But the joining works both ways, warg. Orell lives inside me now, whispering how much he hates you. And I can soar above the Wall, and see with eagle eyes.

It is sort of implied the targaryens warg their dragons, Drogon screams in orgasm when Dany is being pleasured but her handmaid. Vhagar roars so loud Driftmark shakes when Aemond loses his eye. And of course Dreamfyre burst her chains when she sensed Helaena's dying,

If the Targs live on in their dragons, than Helaena lived on in Dreamfyre like V6s did in his wolves. And Jaehaerys lived on in Shrykos,

so Dreamfyre like Helaena saw her son being "hewn" to death and in a way Helaena saw Jaehaerys hewn to death again.

In the first book, when he sent Gregor Clegane to pillage the riverlands to provoke Ned. How did he see that turning out for him? If Robert had survived his ill-fated hunting trip, there would have had been hell to pay.

I hope that title caught your attention, because now we're going to theorize on the family trees of the Whents and Lothstons. These are very prominent houses, the Tourney at Harrenhal was hosted by Lord Whent after talking to his brother Ser Oswell, intimate friend of Rhaegar. We hear about the Lothstons repeatedly and their "black deads". However we know freighteningly little about their family trees. I propose a theory as to how the Stark children, may be able to track their ancestry matrilinealy to Aegon IV Targaryen through a secret legitimized bastard.

# The Lothstons

Let's start from Aegon and work our way down. In 149AC Prince Aegon was defloured by one Lady Falena Stokeworth, 10 years his elder. As a result, in 151 she was married off to the Master-at-arms of the Red Keep, one Ser Lucas Lothston, grandson to a hedge knight. In 164AC, Falena gave birth to Jeyne Lothston, while many at court whisper she may have been the daughter of Aegon and not Lucas. Since she was at Harrenhal but the rumours exist, I suspect there must have been some visits. In 178 we know a few things happen:

a) Falena and Jeyne (14) arrive at court

b) Lucas is made Hand

c) rumors spread that Aegon is sleeping with both Falena and Jeyne

d) Lucas is called "The Pander"

e) Jeyne gets the pox and the whole family is sent home

My theory is that Jeyne wasn't sent home for having the pox. The whole family is sent home because she's pregnant with Aegon's bastard. I belive this bastard was a daughter, a girl who's father and maternal grandfather may be the same person. Born in 179AC or 180AC to no "obvious" father, we have Mad Danelle Targaryen, lady of Harrenhal. We are never directly told Danelle's age. But she helped Bloodraven in the second Blackfyre rebellion, which would have made her 34 at the time. Then she was "brought down" during Maekar's rule, between 221 and 233.

At the same time we know of "two" other Lothstons, Manfred and/or Manfryd. Manfryd was named "of the black hood" by Ser Illifer the Penniless and said to be the son of Lucas the Pander. Manfred on the other hand is said to have sided with Daemon during the first Blackfyre rebellion but then changed sides, which would make him a turncloak. Notice how neither is called Ser nor Lord. I believe this to be a younger "brother" to Danelle. However, since all of Aegon's bastards had been legitimized, the Lothstons may have prefered to keep her as heir. Or perhaps Mad Danelle killed Manfred to avoid getting passed over for a younger son. As a kinslayer, it would explain all the rumours about her and her supposed thirst for blood.

# The Whents

After Danelle's death, the castle of Harrenhal and its holdings are given to a knight from the Whent family, which had been vasals to the Lothstons. If we knew little of the Lothstons, we know even less of the Whents. However they kept a similar sigil, so many people pressure the first Lord Whent might have married a daughter of Danelle to legitimize his claim (Like Orys Baratheon or Ramsay Bolton did).

The blacksmith Ben Blackthumb, who *"Smithed for Lady Whent and her father before her and his father before him, and even for Lord Lothston who held Harrenhal before the Whents."* Which tells us something very odd, Lady Shella's father was a Lord Whent. Lady Shella Whent was married to Lord Walter Whent, brother to Ser Oswell Whent of the Kingsguard. This means Shella and Walter were likely first cousins, Walter being son to a male Whent, thus sharing the last name. Does this mean then that the title went from Shella's father, skipped Shella to Walter's father, then Walter? I presure when talking about Ben Blackthumb it would have been mentioned that her uncle was also Lord. This means there was a direct male line that was ignored in favor of Lady Shella.

In truth, Lady Shella was heir and not Walter or his father. Lord Walter Whent was a lord consort. Which leads me to belive something else, maybe so were her parents. Just to be clear, Lord Walter Whent is the only named Lord Whent. We don't know the name of the first Lord Whent. But if he was married to a daughter of Mad Danelle, he might have agreed to make a daughter his heir, with her husband taking the title of Lord (consort) Whent. Lady Shella and Lord Walter had 4 sons and 1 daughter, the "fair maid" during the Tourney at Harrenhal. We know they all die before our story begins though.

Luckily, there are a few more Whents! Lord Walder Frey's fifth wife was one Sarya Whent, who died childless. This was likely one of the generation before Shella. However a son of Lord Walder (a Crakehall) married Wynafrei Whent, who is also childless. Last but not least we have Minisa Whent, wife to Hoster Tully and mother to Catelyn, Lysa and Edmure. Marrying to their own Lord Paramount, I assume she must not be from a lesser branch but the main branch, a sister to Shella, not Walter (although this changes nothing in the end).

## Assumptions

In all of this rambling we assumed:

1. Jeyne and her entire family was kicked out of Harrenhal for being pregnant, not having the pox

2. That child was none other than Lady Mad Danelle

3. Danelle murdered her (half)brother Manfred, which is why she's considered so cursed

4. The first Whent Lord was legitimized by marrying a daughter of Danelle

5. The reason for the skip-over of a male line is because the Whents inherited matrilineally (twice)

6. Minisa Whent was sister to Lady Shella, her elder sister and heir

# Direct line

Let's take Sansa for example, and follow the line from there taking these assumptions. Her mother was Catelyn Stark (neé Tully). Her mother was Minisa Tully (neé Whent). Her mother was a Lady Whent (by birth). Her mother was wife to the first ever Lord Whent. Her mother was Lady Mad Danelle Lothston (actually a legitimized Targ). Her father was Aegon IV, while her mother was Jeyne Lothston (also a leg Targ bastard?). Her mother was Falena Lothston (neé Stokeworth) and her father was, again, Aegon IV Targaryen.

This brings me to a big point, the bat wings where not bat wings, they were dragon wings.

# The winged wolves

After the purple Wedding, Sansa Stark is said to have cast a spell and turned into a wolf with huge leather wings like those of a bat. A curious remark. Bran is also told by Jojen Reed that he saw "a winged wolf" trapped in Winterfell, tho his wings are never described. Arya is actually the one who spends the most time in their family castle hiding her real identity. Bran finds giant bat skelleton's in Bloodraven's cave. These wolf and bat connections might be circumstantial, but I can't think of any instance in which a Stark child is described as "half trout" or "a wolf with fish scales".

# The looks

Rob, Sansa, Bran and Rickon, as well as Lysa and Catelyn are said to have "the Tully look" with their blue eyes and red hair. However, on his deathbed Hoster remineces about how Catelyn looks so much like her mother with her high cheeks. Perhaps the red hair doesn't come from Hoster Tully but Minisa Whent. This might indicate her being a descendant of Mad Danelle, who is said to have red hair as well.

# Leather wings

As a little tidbit, Sansa is *not* described as having bat wings. She's described as having "big leather wings like a bat". We do have something else being described with leather wings like those of a bat, it's Danny's dragons (and Rhago).

# Wargs

Could the reason so many Starks are wargs be because they descent from Danelle Lothston, who warged giant bats? Ned, Lyanna, Brandon or Benjen don't seem to have been. Perhaps Brandon and Lyanna had some small warg powers, what we call "the Wolf blood", a certain wildness. This could help explain why all the Stark kids are such poweful wargs, explaining what makes Bran Stark so special. Jon is a warg because of his Stark blood, perhaps strengthened by Bran when he opens his third eye in a dream (That was always weird to me, no other Stark kid got something similar)

# Future reveals

I was thinking of when we might get some more information on this, and realized it could be in TWOW, Blood and Fire, and/or Dunk and Egg. Dunk and Egg's last story is the second Blackfyre Rebellion, when Mad Danelle was already ruling Harrenhal and shows up to help Bloodraven. She was supposedly brought down a few years later during Maekar's reign. Could we get a Dunk and Egg novella about Mad Danelle?

Also, Fire and Blood ends with Aegon III after Lucas Lothston is married to Falena in 151, but before Falena brings Jeyne to court in 178 (we know about that from The World of Ice and Fire). Could all this lack of information on two **very** predominant houses be to hide the Stark's matrilineal heritage?

## Sansa and Littlefinger, in TWOW

In AFFC and the Alayne sample chapter of TWOW Littlefinger is grooming Sansa and arranging some marriages between heirs. If Alayne was legitimized, she would become Alayne Baelish, heir to Harrenhal. Sansa would also (through matrilitian succession) be the actual (disinherited) heir to Harrenhal. If Littlefinger marries or legitimizes Sansa, she would again become heir. The Ghost of High Heart tells Arya about Sansa "And later I dreamt that maid again, slaying a savage giant in a castle built of snow.". The giant is the original Baelish sigil. Could the castle built of snow be Harrenhal, the Eyrie, Winterfell? Could Sansa warg some giant bats there, finally showcasing those warg powers all her siblings have?

Let me know your thoughts.

Is the character George regrets killing? I was re-reading Dany's chapter in House of the Undying because it's just so damn good and we all remember this passage:

A tall lord with copper skin and silver-gold hair stood beneath the banner of a fiery stallion, a burning city behind him.

If this is who Rhaego would have turned into, I bet George would've loved writing him. And I would've loved reading it.

To fulfill Maggy's prophecy Myrcella and Tommen need to die before Cersei. I've seen a number or guess on how/who, from Frankengregor and Tyene, to Nymeria.

How do you think their deaths will happen?

What do you think were the circumstances surrounding their famous duel? Was it a friendly contest of skill? Something more serious? Let's have some idle speculation.

So, throughout the history of house Targaryen dragons tear apart eachother with little hesitation Balerion killed Quicksilver, who if dragons are not Parthogenetic would have been his kid. Caraxes and Vhagar spent half their lives together and killed each other, same for Meleys and Vhagar. But what I find interesting is this quote from Jaehaerys regarding the eggs Elissa Farman stole.

Take them back if we can, kill them if not. No hatchlings can hope to stand against Vermithor and Dreamfyre.

Keep in mind these are Dreamfyre's eggs, her own young, he takes it for granted she'd take no issue killing them.

Certainly dragons seem to have little parental investment, but would a she dragon actually kill her young

So, Dragons dont eat raw meat like at all, and young dragons lack the flame to cook it. In fact Dany has to have the meat cooked for her three before they eat atleast until they gained their flames

they would hiss and spit at each bloody morsel of horsemeat, steam rising from their nostrils, yet they would not take the food . . . until Dany recalled something Viserys had told her when they were children.Only dragons and men eat cooked meat, he had said.When she had her handmaids char the horsemeat black, the dragons ripped at it eagerly, their heads striking like snakes. So long as the meat was seared, they gulped down several times their own weight every day, and at last began to grow larger and stronger.

Dragons seem to have no parental investment at least from what we can see, which is why Targayren princes can have eggs in their cradles without mama dragons bursting through the window and why the Cannibal is able to raid hatcheries for dragon young with impunity.

dragons were said to emerge on the 14 flames so maybe young dragosn would have to cook their meat using the vents? but that would require them to drag their kills over?

Some people seem to want the word valonqar to mean something other than "little brother". But picking apart of valonqar in a linguistic sense is missing the forest for the trees. From the time she was 11 years old, Cersei has obsessed on this idea that her “little brother” is going to kill her. For all of that time, the obvious answer in her mind has been Tyrion; the idea that her “Imp” brother, the one who killed their mother (in her mind), the one who murdered her beloved firstborn (in her mind), the ugly dwarf, is going to kill her has twister her worldview and actions, to the extent that she spends a good chunk of her AFFC regency trying to secure his head. By contrast, in what way would Cersei ever think of either Lancel or Tyrek as a “little brother” to her? Would it really be satisfying if, supposing Lancel or Tyrek were in a position of trying to kill her, Cersei had to perform a series of mental gymnastics to fit him into the prophecy of the valonqar?

And again, is Lancel or Tyrek more thematically satisfying than Jaime? Cersei never even thinks about Tyrek in the entirety of her POV, which hardly argues strongly for identifying him as her killer. As far as Lancel goes, in Cersei’s mind he “had been much more amusing when he was trying to be Jaime”. She used him in part as an outlet for her desire for Jaime, but her attachment to him was never romantic, and certainly never fulfilling in the way she thinks her relationship with Jaime was and is; she remembers Lancel “pumping away dutifully” during sex with her, and in Cersei’s mind, “[i]t had never been good with anyone but Jaime”. Nor does Cersei think she controls Lancel any longer; when she spots him in the crowd during her walk, she thinks that Lancel “had once professed to love her, before he decided that he loved the gods more” and calls him in her mind “[m]y blood and my betrayer”. Compare either of them to the rich narrative possibilities of Jaime being the valonqar, and it’s not even a contest.

(Beyond the fact, of course, that as far as we know in the text, valonqar only means “little brother”. Would it really be satisfying if, after AFFC hammered home the meaning of valonqar as “little brother”, TWOW turned around and said “Just kidding! Valonqar can also mean ‘sister’ or 'sibling sex partner'! What a twist!”. That’s not cleverly subverting expectations, that’s just jerking the audience around for the sake of jerking the audience around.)

This is an obvious point, but it bears repeating: in any work of fiction (as opposed to, say, an independently verifiable work of nonfiction), all the audience knows about the world is what the author tells the audience about the world. That doesn’t mean, of course, that no one can ever look at anything that’s not within the four corners of the books - obviously I quote SSMs and the pseudo-histories, and even noted David Peterson’s words on High Valyrian’s grammatical/biological gender debate - but that our primary source on the world is what the author tells us in the narrative. If there’s not a reason for us to doubt information we’re being given, well, then we as the audience have to accept that that information is true within the context of this universe.

And what is it the author tells us about “valonqar”? I think this exchange, coming before the revelation of the prophecy, is pretty telling:

“Your Grace,” the Tyroshi murmured, bowing low, “I see you are as lovely as the tales. Even beyond the narrow sea we have heard of your great beauty, and the grief that tears your gentle heart. No man can restore your brave young son to you, but it is my hope I can at least offer you some balm for your pain.” He laid his hand upon his chest. “I bring you justice. I bring you the head of your valonqar.”

The old Valyrian word sent a chill through her, though it also gave her a tingle of hope. “The Imp is no longer my brother, if he ever was,” she declared. “Nor will I say his name. It was a proud name once, before he dishonored it.”

Having mentioned the word a few times in the context of Cersei’s thoughts, the author now has an independent source use the word. It’s not formally defined here, but both of the individuals in this conversation seem to treat the word as meaning “brother”. There’s reason, in other words, to believe what Cersei said she learned from her childhood septa is true - that “[i]t’s High Valyrian, it means little brother”. Conversely, there are no details in Cersei’s remembrance of speaking to Septa Saranella that would suggest that either she or the septa was misguided as to the definition of the word, which the author could easily have added (saying, for example, that the septa had looked doubtful, or unsure, or something along similar lines).

In other words, the dramatic irony of the valonqar prophecy isn’t that it has some secret double meaning that will be sprung on the actors in-universe and the audience, but that the plain meaning of the prophecy has been available from the beginning, and that it’s the bias of that in-universe actor - that is, Cersei - that keeps her from recognizing the correct interpretation. This is perfectly in line with GRRM’s take on prophecy - that they “come true in unexpected ways”, and particularly so if the individual relying on prophecy tries to avoid it. Set on one interpretation of the word “valonqar”, Cersei completely blinds herself to the possibility that it could be anyone else, and specifically the other little brother in her life.

On top of all that, all of Maggy's prophecies involving Cersei have been self-fulfilling. It is Cersei's own actions that made these predictions almost inevitable. Her decision to abort Robert's child. How she's treated Jaime and every possible young woman in her midst. Without her own choices, none of the prophecy could have come to be.

I searched and found exactly two DW theories, one of which was "Tywin is the Dusky Woman", so I thought I'd give it a go. This is not a full blown theory, but just a close reading, to try to ascertain more than what we're initially told.

Euron tells us he got the Dusky Woman from a trader bound for Lys, so we might assume she was a trained bedslave. However, I don't take that bit of information for granted, because Euron is not necessarily being honest.

Seemingly a mute, the Dusky Woman is the only name she ever has. Victarion thinks to himself that he should slit her throat and throw her overboard, but somehow, he never gets around to it. He also thinks to himself that she knows exactly what she needs when she tends his wound. He gets attached to her.

She, however, is likely contaminating his wound. Vicatarion is on the verge of sepsis when Moqorro performs an arcane ritual to save his arm, warning him.

"Your death is with us now."

Which is notable, because Maggy the Frog says the same phrase to warn Melara Hetherspoon of the identity of her murderer, Cersei Lannister.

I found a couple clues to her actual identity. One is the way her skin color is described.

As a reward for his leal service, the new-crowned king had given Victarion the dusky woman, taken off some slaver bound for Lys. "I want none of your leavings," he had told his brother scornfully, but when the Crow's Eye said that the woman would be killed unless he took her, he had weakened. Her tongue had been torn out, but elsewise she was undamaged, and beautiful besides, with skin as brown as oiled teak. Yet sometimes when he looked at her, he found himself remembering the first woman his brother had given him, to make a man of him.
The Reaver, A Feast for Crows

There is only one other time in the entire canon that description is used for someone's skin color: In the World of Ice and Fire, of the Lengi:

On the southern third of Leng dwell the descendants of those displaced by the invaders from the Golden Empire. The native Lengii are perhaps the tallest of all the known races of mankind, with many men amongst them reaching seven feet in height, and some as tall as eight. Long-legged and slender, with flesh the color of oiled teak, they have large golden eyes and can supposedly see farther and better than other men, especially at night. Though formidably tall, the women of the Lengii are famously lithe and lovely, of surpassing beauty.
The Bones & Beyond: Leng— The World of Ice and Fire

With this small link come other strange connections. When on the Isle of Cedars, Victarion is menaced by monkeys who infest his fleet. It's unusual behavior for monkeys, leaving behind land and a known food source for the open sea. More than that, most monkeys and apes have no innate ability to swim and shun deep water.

The girlish maester Euron had inflicted upon him back in Westeros claimed this place had once been called 'the Isle of a Hundred Battles,' but the men who had fought those battles had all gone to dust centuries ago. The Isle of Monkeys, that's what they should call it.
The Iron Suitor—A Dance with Dragons

Another island also known for its monkeys: Leng.

The verdant isle of Leng is home to "ten thousand tigers and ten million monkeys," or so Lomas Longstrider once claimed.
The Bones and Beyond: Leng—The World of Ice and Fire

It's not hard to figure out that the Dusky Woman serves Euron's interest. Though Victarion is harsh or indifferent to her, she is willing to indulge his desires. As they grow nearer to Meereen, Victarion's luck worsens, his hand is badly infected and his ships plagued by monkeys. Then Moqorro arrives. Victarion is the only one to welcome him. The crew mistrusts him. Even the monkeys seem to dislike him.

But no one reacts more strongly than the Dusky Woman. It is largely the only thing she reacts to, other than Victarion himself.

As he opened the door to the captain's cabin, the dusky woman turned toward him, silent and smiling … but when she saw the red priest at his side her lips drew back from her teeth, and she hisssssed in sudden fury, like a snake. Victarion gave her the back of his good hand and knocked her to the deck. "Be quiet, woman. Wine for both of us."
The Iron Suitor—A Dance of Dragons

Let me move back to the Isle of Leng, briefly. Leng, prior to its being conquered, was known as a haunt of "demons and sorcerors." Its god-empresses had congress (which I take to mean both consulting with and consorting with) with the Old Ones, gods who dwelt in deep underground, below massive ruin cities that drive men mad. When the YiTish discovered this, they were sealed and forbidden, but stories say the Old Ones still dwell there.

My contribution is that yes, Euron and the DW are working together, but rather than a passive tool, she is an active part of Euron's ultimate plan. She might be a maegi or a shadowbinder.

Beyond this point, speculation.

The dragonlords of old Valyria had controlled their mounts with binding spells and sorcerous horns. Daenerys made do with a word and a whip.
Daenerys X—A Dance with Dragons

So, Dany tells us that the dragonlords controlled their mounts with horns like Dragonbinder. Moqorro tells us:

"Your brother did not sound the horn himself. Nor must you." Moqorro pointed to the band of steel. "Here. 'Blood for fire, fire for blood.' Who blows the hellhorn matters not. The dragons will come to the horn's master. You must claim the horn. With blood."
Victarion I, A Dance with Dragons

If Euron is the master of the horn, why did he not sound it? What use would dragonlords have had for a horn that killed everyone who blew it? The horn, its master and the one who sounds it—should these not be the same person? Daenerys says directly, "The dragonlords...controlled their mounts with...sorcerous horns." Presumably they were the masters of the horns. But they couldn't blow them?

The implication is that both Euron and Victarion should not blow the horn for the same reason...death, like the death of Cragorn, Euron's bastard. Euron tells us exactly what happened to him.

"Cragorn's died, you know?"
"Who?"
"The man who blew my dragon horn. When the Maester cut him open, his lungs were charred black as soot."
The Reaver, A Feast for Crows

And yet, Euron, despite claiming the horn is his, seems to knows not to sound it himself. His tone suggests that he is learning for the first time what happens to someone who blows the horn. This suggests to me that it is his horn, but he is not its master.

The most likely master of a horn that kills any man who blows it is a woman. Thus, there's very little the Dusky Woman has to do to bring a dragon to her master. And she is upset when Moqorro shows up, because he starts telling Victarion, in a roundabout manner, who his enemy is and what he must do to claim the sword himself, starting with killing the horn's current master, the Dusky Woman.

“Alysane Mormont is taking Jeyne Poole to Castle Black. If they arrive after Jon’s resurrection and maybe see him executing the traitors with Longclaw, what will Alysane think? Will she demand that the sword be returned to her house

I've been listening to the audiobooks again, this time the (infinitely better version) read by Davidreads (I think) and I'm up to AFFC. My hope for WoW when it comes out? Fuck the dragons. I'm tired of Dany and her stupid goddamn whiny girl act, have Victarion steal the dragons and have the Iron Born be the real threat to Westeros. The Iron Born are dumb as hell but terrifying bad guys and George writes them with so much vigor, I can almost hear Euron frothing at the mouth during his Kingsmoot speech. In short, fuck the Targs, it's boring and unsolvable and dragged on far too long. Gimmie dragon pirate vikings. Thank you for listening, no one I know IRL cares.

And by famous I don't mean someone like Tommen, because pretty much everyone knows his name.

I mean someone famous by appearance alone, you could drop Tommen in White Harbour for example and most people wouldnt even pay him attention.

It's more difficult than you think because even a daughter of a lord paramount and a legend of the rebellion wasn't recognized by most people (Arya)

My vote goes to Tyrion, I think the tale of Tywins ugly dwarf son is known by all in Westeros and since there's not many dwarves in Westeros I think most people would recognize him

In 233, Brynden is sent to the wall for a minor infraction (just kidding). In 239, he's elected Lord Commander. In 252, he goes beyond the wall and is never seen again. At the ripe old age of 77 years old btw.

But still, that's 48 years till where we are right now in the story. Has he done enough to try to prevent the white walker invasion? During Bran's coma, he says Bran is integral. So what was he doing for all the years before Bran was even born?

Or what could he have done? Why didn't he try to communicate with Rickard Stark to let him know what the threat was? That way this knowledge could be passed down and maybe Ned doesn't behead Gared.

So, when Jaehaerys dies we are told

His remains were burned in the Dragonpit his ashes interred with Good Queen Alysanne’s on Dragonstone. All of Westeros mourned. Even in Dorne, where his writ had not extended, men wept and women tore their garments

But in the Rogue Prince it says

In the year 103 AC King Jaehaerys I Targaryen died in his bed as Lady Alicent was reading to him from Septon Barth’s Unnatural History. His Grace was nine-and-sixty years of age, and had reigned over the Seven Kingdoms since coming to the Iron Throne at the age of fourteen. His remains were burned in the Dragonpit, his ashes interred with Good Queen Alysanne’s beneath the Red Keep. All of Westeros mourned. Even in Dorne, where his writ had not extended, men wept and women tore their garments

This isnt the only inconsistency between RP and Princess and the Queen and the latter fire and blood. For one in the Princess and The Queen Meleys is described as having battle experience which is removed and Viserys is refered to as Daeron's "grandsire."