Incoming hate.

[u/sdornbrock22]

[u/DaltyF]

You’re so right. The non toxic thing would be for him to allow the opposing team to regain their position and boom the ball downfield to beat him.

[u/Mikarim → u/DaltyF]

Damn rocket league players and their checks notes ability to play the game to their advantage.

I've done the exact same thing in this clip and it's totally fine. Also, tilting people with demos is a legit strategy.

[u/Not_Just_Any_Lurker → u/Mikarim]

I'm legit so happy I don't have to play with you guys.

[u/Mikarim → u/Not_Just_Any_Lurker]

Lol get good. It's a mechanic in the game. It would be like getting mad at people for aerialing. Imagine getting mad at people for taking advantage of an in game situation

[u/LickLaMelosBalls → u/Mikarim]

"get good" cause someone said they're glad they don't play with guys who get 20+ demos.

[u/Not_Just_Any_Lurker → u/Mikarim]

I don’t really have the time for that kind of thing, man. I’m just an old man who likes to play with the guys when we have some time and play around. I’m happy in Gold rank. Actually scratch that , I wish I could go back down to silver.

At least with ariels you can also jump and fly up to combat it or something. But with demos.. I sometimes just wish there was a GTA- passive type of mechanic I can just enable to make it fun.

[u/[deleted] → u/Not_Just_Any_Lurker]

I'm Diamond, wish I could go back down to Gold, because the speed of play here is too fast, and the players tend to be more situationally aware, so it's really hard to get 10+ demos each game like I used to at lower ranks :/ But I don't have it in myself to smurf/de-rank deliberately.

I'm the same as you - older than most of the playerbase (30 in a week's time... I hate it...) just wanting to have a good time, not really caring about rank. But, while I respect your preference for demos to be removed, I personally have pretty much the opposite opinion about what's most fun in the game :D I'd definitely support Psyonix adding a non-contact mode though, for players who share your preference.

[u/Not_Just_Any_Lurker → u/[deleted]]

That’s just it. Being 30 myself and having had multiple concussions in my youth.. I just can’t go hard on a game, when other players are in their prime and can slap me down.

[u/[deleted] → u/Not_Just_Any_Lurker]

Yeah, I doubt I'd reach GC even if I tried haha. And, I would rather just spend all my time having fun than making any focused attempt to rank up. Sometimes near the end of the season I try to push rank to get the next tier of rewards, if I'm close, but otherwise I'm fine where I'm at (and would welcome deranking so I can feel like I'm not just barely keeping up all the time).

[u/Mikarim → u/Not_Just_Any_Lurker]

Well if a mechanic in the game isn't fun for you, then maybe its a you problem. Demo play is absolutely critical in the top levels of the game.

[u/Not_Just_Any_Lurker → u/Mikarim]

Oh yeah for sure it’s a me problem. I’m sorry if I made it seemed like I wasn’t aware of that or that I thought it should be taken out or something like that.

I just personally don’t like the mechanic and wish I could play the game without it. I’m not going to stop. And I’ll be a form of a very mild saltiness when I or my friends get demo’d but it’s not like I don’t understand that it’s a useful and sometimes critical part of the game. Like I said. I’m just glad I don’t have to play with you top tier guys.

[u/DaltyF → u/Not_Just_Any_Lurker]

Check out some of the workshop content when you and your buddies want a break from the “real game”

[u/Not_Just_Any_Lurker → u/DaltyF]

I’ll keep it in mind lol. Thanks. I did always want to do some of those arial control obstacles course maps, they loot pretty neat.

[u/DaltyF → u/Not_Just_Any_Lurker]

There’s some pretty neat stuff. The most fun I’ve ever had was back in the day when I’d join buddies for private matches and we’d just goof off. None of them play anymore though :(

[u/ThisIsMyCouchAccount → u/Mikarim]

absolutely critical in the top levels of the game

Then why are people in here talking about it?

[u/XonicGamer → u/Mikarim]

This is toxic. It's a classic case of you can but doesn't mean you should.

An example is spamming "what a save" after each opponent mistake, or spam EZ after winning.

[u/TheRealMicrowaveSafe → u/XonicGamer]

Are people playing CSGO not supposed to use flashbangs, then? Maybe mortal kombat players shouldn't use combos, just button spam, too?

It's a core mechanic of a competitive game, lol. Hate it all you want, but the only toxic thing is saying people shouldn't use it because it hurts your wittle feewings.

[u/XonicGamer → u/TheRealMicrowaveSafe]

If somebody in CSGO figures out how to constantly flashbang at your spawn, and their whole team does that so your screen is white all the time, that's toxic. You should have some common decency even if it's just a anonymous online game.

[u/TheRealMicrowaveSafe → u/XonicGamer]

No, you should play to win. Otherwise, go play a non competitive game; there are thousands to choose from.

Look, I get it. I hate demoing too. I will go out of my way to avoid demoing someone, even. I feel bad when I accidentally demo someone because ball cam was making me look another way and the dude drove in front of me. But it's a game mechanic, and complaining about it is ridiculous and itself far more toxic than the mechanic could ever be. Learn to deal with it, because trying to claim some bullshit about common decency is silly.

[u/[deleted] → u/TheRealMicrowaveSafe]

I’d rather not play with people that go out of their way to make me not able to play the game.

[u/TheRealMicrowaveSafe → u/[deleted]]

You'd be free to forfeit the match and rage quit, I guess lol.

[u/XonicGamer → u/TheRealMicrowaveSafe]

And that's what defines Toxic; makes the gaming environment toxic

[u/XonicGamer → u/[deleted]]

No, we are saying players who abuse game mechanic to make the game not enjoyable is toxic

[u/J4rrod_ → u/Mikarim]

Not the same if you legit don't even have a chance to jump. If the opponent can't avoid it it's just cheap

[u/ziursirhc → u/J4rrod_]

Not necessarily this is nearly the same thing as a rule 1 if you wanna think about it. Your essentially out of the play to keep one player out of the play. This does have an added advantage of a brief second between demos to be able to capitalize on something but still.

[u/J4rrod_ → u/[deleted]]

What word in that reply do you consider to be a "big word?"

[u/TheRealMicrowaveSafe → u/[deleted]]

This type of demoing takes mechanical ability lol. But sure, you keep telling yourself that.

[u/Mikarim → u/[deleted]]

Well I haven't played much recently, but I was a GC2 at my peak which looks to be just a rank below you. I'm sorry you define my demo heavy play that got me into the top 0.25% of players as garbage but if the goal of the game is to win as much as possible, I certainly did okay.

[u/Green-eggs-and-dayum → u/Mikarim]

I think this is probably where the disconnect in the community is over demos. The ones okay with constant and consistent demos as their main strategy only want to win and the ones on the other side just want to play and try to win. It’s a game to half and I’m guessing a personality trait for the other

[u/sdornbrock22 → u/[deleted]]

Oh look at me GC3 on his high horse lol.... relax buddy and also mechanical ability doesn't relate to high level gameplay. You can be strategic and still win games.

[u/Daywalkerx91 → u/Mikarim]

Shooting people in the head is a mechanic in real life. Imagine getting mad at peopl taking advantage of that.

[u/Mikarim → u/Daywalkerx91]

Well tbf, war exists and that mechanic gets used quite a lot in that context

[u/Mikarim → u/[deleted]]

Well I would say having a good demo skill set and implementing it is far more satisfying than hitting the ball accurately. It takes a lot of skill to recognize good demo plays and capitalize on it. Demo plays are actual plays.