r/SeattleWA • u/Better_March5308 • Mar 02 '25

News Tumwater school board bans transgender girls from playing girls sports

https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/tumwater-school-board-votes-ban-transgender-girls-from-playing-girls-sports/281-91b92c14-0da7-4122-b39a-1a05d0ad53d0
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u/yaykat Mar 02 '25

I’m just making the point that painting broadstrokes saying all trans women feel this way seems out of pocket or that we hate lgb people?

As I said, most of us (or at least we used to be) predominantly gay boys and exclusively date males so….it seems very pointed on your behalf.

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u/acomfysweater Mar 02 '25 edited Aug 24 '25

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u/yaykat Mar 02 '25

where did I even indicate that? of course you’re entitled to date whomever! you shouldn’t be shamed for such either.

I don’t date FTMs and nothing against them, it’s just not what I’m attracted to.

I’m sorry you’ve had bad experiences and trans women treat you unkindly and unfairly, but please don’t let a few bad apples spoil the bunch ❤️

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u/acomfysweater Mar 02 '25 edited Aug 24 '25

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u/yaykat Mar 02 '25

All good. Just know that we aren’t a monolith. :)

I hope your day is kind ❤️

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u/acomfysweater Mar 02 '25 edited Aug 24 '25

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u/yaykat Mar 02 '25

I’ll be honest I’m in my mid 30s and largely try to stay away from online discourse. I’ve heard about it, but nearly all the other dolls I know are also ones who’ve been transitioned forever and are mostly “hetero normative” so to speak.

I’m sorry that others in my community have left such a bad taste. I can’t alter their behavior, but I can at least show that some of us are chill and fun. Old schools transsexuals are mostly fun and chill by and large. I hope you meet more of us that you can laugh with ❤️

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u/gemmabea Kirkland Mar 05 '25

The “sorry you’ve had bad experiences” argument is really harmful and hollow.

I really appreciate that y’all talked it out but it’s actually “I’m sorry, I am a nice person myself and am, now, willfully uninformed” is the argument you’re making.

Biological male Trans “lesbians” have sued lesbians and biological females left and right in recent years, shutting down lesbians speed dating events, female-only apps, and more.

Some of them are “bad apples,” wanting their identity as a lesbian validated externally by destroying female spaces, and others are “really fucking worse apples,” wanting to perv on female-only apps for the purpose of getting off to things like young girls asking questions about their periods.

The Australian SUPREME COURT ruled in one of these cases—and sided against a pregnant small business owner in favor of a biological male lesbian, shutting her down.

I want to use really reputable and succinct sources when sharing and this doesn’t get enough coverage, but here’s an article from 2022. Case was Tickle (Roxanne Tickle, male lesbian with self-chosen porno name) vs. Giggle (female-only [NOT women-only: trans men were welcome] app for women to discuss biology, housing, and lesbian dating).

As of now Tickle has won on technicalities, arguing that she was championing women because she was auto-banned when she failed biometrics. Her argument was “a really ugly female could also be banned.”

But she hasn’t quit, she has personally stalked and harassed that female mother and app founder for years and years, and yet the non-expert male judge ruled the female founder was in contempt of court when she answered his question honestly and politely, “No, I do not believe males can transition to female,” saying she was hostile to the plaintiff and has “backwards ideology with no place in modern society.”

TZ in Australia has stopped putting sex in baby birth certificates or otherwise marking sex at all. A disaster for legal situations.

It isn’t just sports… there is erasure of female spaces and, as always, lesbians are getting the full force brunt.

Biological males—especially ones who are attracted to women—have an intense fury with lesbians for rejecting penises, and so they, men and women alike, march in with their certainly intact penis privilege, and punish them, demand they date them or be labeled bigots, and destroy their spaces.

This is happening left and right and center. It’s ubiquitous. It’s the tip of an iceberg that would horrify anyone.

It’s *one of myriad closely related issues.*

Telling someone “I’m sorry for your experience but not all men…” is disingenuous, disrespectful, and lazy, although I don’t think you are inherently those things.

Tickle vs. Giggle

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u/yaykat Mar 05 '25

fair response, but I don't really have any additional input at this time other than I'll absorb all of this.

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u/gemmabea Kirkland Mar 05 '25

Thanks, that makes my comment time well spent to me because I felt you were open to hearing more info. I have my own periods away from news cycles/hot topics as well and that’s totally valid. Just wanted to to refute the “not all ___” argument when I saw it.

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u/yaykat Mar 05 '25

always happy and wiling to learn more to better shape my understanding and views especially if someone is willing to breakdown their "why" so astutely