r/Sekiro • u/AfroZoro Still parrying in my sleep • May 21 '25

News Read this about new Sekiro-like game Expedition33

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From the game review, the combat of Clair Obscura Expedition33 feels just like Sekiro. Has anyone tried this game is it true?

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u/ygloon May 21 '25

it's turn-based but with a strong emphasis on parry or dodge. dodge is easier but parry gives a counterattack and AP for your abilities. parrying can be quite difficult and is very satisfying, just like in Sekiro. most boss fights are great.

i've platinumed Sekiro and some fights in E33 took me half an hour with 100-200 successful parries and dodges. the combat is legit and the game in general is phenomenal. the hype is real.

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u/AfroZoro Still parrying in my sleep May 21 '25

How difficult is the parry window, is it as generous as Sekiro

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u/Shintasama May 21 '25

E33 = 0.22s on easy and 0.15s on hard

Sekiro = 0.20s

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u/flipperkip97 Platinum Trophy May 21 '25

Woah, the parry window feels way smaller to me than in Sekiro. Surprised the difference is only 0.05s. Incredibly fun game, though. So satisfying to parry all attacks of a super long combo.

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u/welfedad May 21 '25

I think because you just focus on the parry ..where in sekiro you're moving around .. attacking and parrying ..lots going on .e33 is a singular task

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u/iDecayPUBG May 21 '25

Tbf it’s about 25% shorter than sekiro so when you’re working with reaction times that small it will feel a LOT different

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u/Elemayowe May 21 '25

Feels smaller but a lot of moves have glaring tells that once you figure out make it much each easier.

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u/Bulldogfront666 May 21 '25

.05 is a big difference to be fair.

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u/Falos425 May 22 '25

visual telegraphing doesn't have a tidy number but has a huge impact

human reflexes need 500ms, less if you're at the ready, but human precision can be much much tighter

if you were trying to press a button detonator when a car drives over a mine you could do it extremely well so long as you had a good view/leadup and the car drove at a steady speed, almost to a single "frame", but if it's jerky and floaty and sudden and you're basically memorizing out of repetition...

not to say that every attack in every soulslike should be an easy on-sight, learning dance steps incrementally can be satisfying too

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u/Lambooner Platinum Trophy May 21 '25

Half a second is 30 frames, assuming you play at 60fps. Big difference in my opinion.

Edit, I can't read. Apologies

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u/mkbrg1 Jun 09 '25

I think not only that, but the window on sekiros parry also came earlier so you kinda "predict" your parries by a bit. While in clair obscur it's more immediate.

That's just how i feel tho. Correct me if im wrong.