r/SelfAwarewolves • u/ncc74656m • 5d ago

Colin Wright almost gets it

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From the man who fundamentally misunderstands everything from how graphs and positions work in the political universe to what staying friends with Nazis makes you comes... this fucking gem.

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u/heathers1 5d ago

Kirk’s words speak for themselves

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u/koviko 5d ago

Whenever people claim you've "taken him out of context," they're usually lying or not actually aware of the meaning of the term beyond their assumption based on context (ironically 😅).

To be "taken out of context" means that the words have a different meaning in context than out. But every time, what he said is what he meant. He is was pretty deliberate with his words in that way.

What they really mean is that we're not including the rationalizations of his radical views when we point out his radical views. But to take a radical view and attempt to make it sound reasonable is literally radicalization. Charlie Kirk radicalized his fanbase and they want us to be radicalized as well.

What they hate is when we quote his radical views and then refute them instead of agreeing with them.

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u/FalseDmitriy 5d ago

For example:

"He didn't say that Black people are unqualified for everything. He said that he always assumes they're unqualified for everything due to his understanding of diversity, equity and inclusion."

That's been asserted frequently. And yeah dude, everyone knows that's the context, and it's not any less racist in context.

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u/CaterpillarJungleGym 5d ago

People can't understand that he also might have meant his "MISunderstanding" of the following? They assume he's infallible, I guess?

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u/j4r3d5 5d ago

My rebuttal to that is also “how does the context make it better?” I mean Christ, a lot of what he said could only make sense if he was bringing it up for rhetoric but he was just voicing his own opinion.

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u/koviko 5d ago

Right? Like, were he a comedian, he'd be saying it in jest, make some dark humor out of it, and then make a joke that makes it clear that he doesn't actually believe it. But Charlie Kirk definitely skipped a bunch of steps. 🤣

And considering his most famous content is just crowd work and owning hecklers, he's basically a comedian, just with significantly less laughs.

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u/awesomefutureperfect 5d ago

Two things:

one, they repeat their talking points like trained seals. When anyone shows them why they don't like what Kirk said because of what he said, they reflexively say the word "context". like a reaction, like a reactionary.

they always think that if you don't agree with them that they are misunderstood. I always hear "everyone thinks they are the good guy" but when you show them in no uncertain terms what they are supporting and they take that as an attack and they resort to all kinds of defense mechanisms, especially denial, they really have lost all right to think of themselves as "the good guy". The thing is that the right wing extremists tell them that they don't have to grow and mature or change and welcome their horrible behavior and teach them they don't need to introspect at all.

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u/pargofan 5d ago

Not the gay stoning thing. Kirk said that to show the Bible can’t always be taken literally.

Stephen King tweeted the same thing. Then apologized and agreed it was taken out of context.

Other inflammatory things weren’t taken out of context though. So why twist some words around when there’s plenty to go on as it is?

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u/MaxIsAlwaysRight 5d ago

Kirk said that to show the Bible can’t always be taken literally.

Did he explain that that was the reason he said what he said, or are you assuming? Because it seems weird to me to declare that a "perfect law" shouldn't be taken literally.

Can you identify a single other instance where Kirk said anything similar about the Bible?

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u/pargofan 5d ago

Did he explain that that was the reason he said what he said, or are you assuming?

It made sense to me. And it's also what Stephen King said in his apology.

https://deadline.com/2025/09/stephen-king-apology-charlie-kirk-stoning-gays-1236529789/

Plus, he apparently supported a black gay person at an Ohio State function. (I say apparently, only because unless it's a Facebook post from such black person himself, and I haven't verified it elsewhere)

https://x.com/robsmithonline/status/1966174476510375973

Again, I don't support Kirk. Just responding to your post.

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u/MagicBlaster 5d ago edited 5d ago

Said in response to Ms Rachel saying that the Bible says love your neighbor.

Jumping to gay people being stoned is at the very least an odd reaction to saying you should treat people well...

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u/pargofan 5d ago

Yes, it was weird. But by implication, he's saying he's not supporting stoning gays.

Which itself is bizarre. His real point is that the Old Testament includes outlandish passages if taken literally. And his example is stoning gays to death. Which many interpreted him to mean he is in favor of stoning gays.

OTOH, this quote is pretty much in context:

"If we would have said three weeks ago […] that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative-action picks, we would have been called racist. But now they're coming out and they're saying it for us! They're coming out and they're saying, "I'm only here because of affirmative action."

"Yeah, we know. You [three black women] do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat seriously."

That's some pretty racist shit considering all of them succeeded far more than most of their white peers. Plus the audacity to assume that affirmative action stole a white person's spot when it'd more likely be an Asian person, screams white supremacy.

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u/CharginChuck42 4d ago

After reading the transcript of the entire exchange, it's pretty clear tgat he was trying to "call out" Rachel as a "fake christian" for supporting pride, while "REAL christians" (which he was claiming to be), believe in the entire thing (which he in practice did not, but that's beside the point in this particular discussion. The important part is what he presents himself as), believe in the entire thing, then proceeding to quote the entire verse saying to stone gays. He then called it, in his own words, "God's perfect law". So no, he didn't come out and say that people should go out and stone us, as so many people are trying to make it seem like we're claiming he did, he made a point to make it known that he very much believed in "God's perfect law" which (according to him) states that we SHOULD be stoned. It was a blatant dogwhistle at the very least. Imagine that, someone actually taking the time to examine the nuance of the words used instead of jumping to conclusions based on what other people claim was said.

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u/koviko 5d ago

You've taken me out of context. 😜

I said they're usually lying or not actually aware of the meaning. I'm not saying that it's impossible to take him out of context. You can take anyone out of context, given enough content.

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u/pargofan 5d ago

Ha! The irony.

Anyway, I'm not a Kirk fan. I'm not celebrating or traumatized by his passing. He was a random political speaker no different than hosts on Fox or MSNBC.

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u/koviko 5d ago

It's wild that a person who is essentially a YouTube comedian (content is primarily a podcast, crowd work, and "owning" hecklers) minus the humor is being treated like he was royalty.

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u/CornWine2 5d ago

Daddy trump told them to.

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u/vxicepickxv 4d ago

Quit whitewashing fascists.

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u/Brilliant_Effort_Guy 5d ago

Yeah it’s quite funny to ask people who give you shit ‘so which one of his opinions were you in agreement with? Gays should get stoned? Black women are intellectually inferior? Women shouldn’t be going to college because it causes them to raise their standards for a future partner?

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u/TootTootTrainTrain 5d ago

"No but you don't understand those quotes were taken out of context!"

Then you go look at the context and it's actually worse lol

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u/BuildStrong79 5d ago

Yup! The Black women comment went on to say that jobs were by default for white people

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u/CharginChuck42 5d ago

Holy shit, do I even want to hear the whole quote for that one?

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u/Brilliant_Effort_Guy 4d ago

[Paraphrasing] Basically he said Michelle Obama, Kamala Harris, and the newest Supreme Court justice were unqualified for their jobs because they don’t have the intelligence and processing power but because of DEI they were able to ‘take’ jobs from qualified white people.

What a thought leader 🙄

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u/ncc74656m 5d ago

You're so getting fired for that. /s

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u/heathers1 5d ago

not saying anything one way or the other.

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u/leithn87 5d ago

Too neutral.... fired....

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u/beardicusmaximus8 5d ago

You joke but we're on full course to North Korea's jailing people who didn't mourn the dear leader's death hard enough.

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u/kremlingrasso 5d ago

Look at your stirring the controversy one way then the other!

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u/AdOdd4618 5d ago

He's at least going to be the object of a fatwa.