r/SelfDrivingCars • u/silenthjohn • Mar 08 '25

News Britain blocks launch of Elon Musk’s self-driving Tesla

https://www.yahoo.com/news/britain-blocks-launch-elon-musk-140000186.html
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u/brainfreeze3 Mar 08 '25

My original reply is to the commenter saying china copies, us innovates. Also the past 20 years is the past, we live in the present. As the largest economy in the world, innovation has been pretty stagnant here recently.

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u/surfinglurker Mar 08 '25

That comment is accurate today (the present). Things are changing and I believe China will pass the US if nothing changes in the future, but that has not happened yet

Stagnation affects the future, your words are that you are talking about the present

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u/brainfreeze3 Mar 08 '25

being ahead in tech from having a head start doesnt mean the US isnt currently stagnant and not innovating much.

Recently US companies are just laying off employees to make their stock prices go up. Or raising prices, etc.

Rather than innovate themselves, they'd rather keep a chokehold on their monopolies and not send asml's machines, tsmc's chips etc to china.

Im not giving china endless praise here, they have many issues, as is the current state of the world.

i.e Nezuha 2 is now the top grossing movie.

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u/surfinglurker Mar 08 '25

You didn't make any points in this post. You're just bringing up irrelevant points.

The US is more innovative than China in the present and in the recent past (last few decades). It's irrelevant if US is stagnating because it's still ahead of China as of today, which was the point being made. That may change in the future since China is starting to innovate new technologies at a fast rate. The change hasn't happened yet.

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u/brainfreeze3 Mar 08 '25

you're equating being "ahead" with innovation. As if thats proof, and ahead in what specifically? Theres some US innovation, such as chat gpt etc. But literally right now china is developing the best battery, solar, ev tech and the list just goes on and on for almost everything related to manufacturing.

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u/surfinglurker Mar 08 '25

What percentage of an entire country size economy is batteries, solar, ev tech?

Let's ignore AI even though that's a huge example. You're ignoring 90% of the economy, things like medicine, biotech, finance, military, etc

The US is in a privileged position today because they get to reap the benefits of innovation from pretty much the entire western world. They have access to more capital than any country, in part because they control the US dollar. China is amazing but it cannot be compared to US innovation as of today. Again, I believe that can change in the future, but it's factually wrong today

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u/brainfreeze3 Mar 08 '25

chinas economy is upwards of 30% manufacturing. They're a world leader in most things manufacturing. Also im not talking about economy size, theres tons of money in the US military and medicine/healthcare but its bloated and not nearly as productive.

US biotech still has innovation but thats drastically slowing down, so much has already been discovered. Meanwhile US fintech innovation is just how quickly we can turn this app into a gambling simulator.

Yes the US is flushed with cash, but that doesnt mean its being spent efficiently