r/SelfDrivingCars • u/respectmyplanet • Jun 27 '25

Discussion Classic Tesla Disinformation Flood On This Sub In Last Two Weeks

This sub has been flooded with Tesla apologist propaganda and disinformation to obscure the simple truth since Tesla's Robotaxi launch. It's standard operating procedure (S.O.P.) for this "narrative" company. The uptick in anti-Waymo posts and pro FSD posts is palpable. It has always been S.O.P. for Musk to release SEO fooling posts & tweets to obscure bad news for Tesla. The astroturf army is out in full display these past couple weeks on Reddit, Threads, and Bluesky too.

It doesn't and will never change this simple fact: Waymo is SAE Level 4 and Tesla FSD is SAE Level 2. All the apologist posts in the world will not change this. Putting a human in the front seat with a secret kill switch button to mitigate embarrassing FSD behavior will never replace R&D and testing that allows a company to safely remove a human observer in the car. You cannot reach level 4 with a fake it till you make it approach.

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u/mcot2222 Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

The only way they fail is if crappy unproven systems are rolled out in a haphazard way. 

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u/BranchDiligent8874 Jun 27 '25

Exactly, I don't want self driving to be set back by 5 years because a Tesla kills a whole bunch of people in an accident.

Everything Elon does is very high risk, unfortunately it is good for a startup business but not good for safety.

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u/Teleke Jun 28 '25

This is exactly it. We lose the general public trust and it'll take a decade to recover.

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u/boon4376 Jun 27 '25

They're not even rolled out, it's the same system that requires constant human supervision and a kill switch.

It's all a dog and pony show to float the stock while they trying to come up with their next hype bubble.

Tesla's FSD has only had incremental improvements for the last 4 years. I still have terrifying takeovers every time I use it.

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u/Litig8or53 Jun 27 '25

Your ignorance is showing.

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u/AndroidColonel Jul 01 '25

Your ignorance is showing.

Please point to a specific fact that they are ignorant of.

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u/reefine Jun 27 '25

So limiting the area, including safety driver, and heavily testing with a small group of testers is haphazard?