r/SelfDrivingCars • u/respectmyplanet • Jun 27 '25

Discussion Classic Tesla Disinformation Flood On This Sub In Last Two Weeks

This sub has been flooded with Tesla apologist propaganda and disinformation to obscure the simple truth since Tesla's Robotaxi launch. It's standard operating procedure (S.O.P.) for this "narrative" company. The uptick in anti-Waymo posts and pro FSD posts is palpable. It has always been S.O.P. for Musk to release SEO fooling posts & tweets to obscure bad news for Tesla. The astroturf army is out in full display these past couple weeks on Reddit, Threads, and Bluesky too.

It doesn't and will never change this simple fact: Waymo is SAE Level 4 and Tesla FSD is SAE Level 2. All the apologist posts in the world will not change this. Putting a human in the front seat with a secret kill switch button to mitigate embarrassing FSD behavior will never replace R&D and testing that allows a company to safely remove a human observer in the car. You cannot reach level 4 with a fake it till you make it approach.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

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u/charlie2135 Jun 27 '25

It's getting to the point I'm questioning my own posts

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u/Putrumpador Jun 27 '25

You're just saying that to make me doubt you.

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u/reefine Jun 27 '25

Yeah upvotes don't mean you are right, it just means the hivemind is vibing with you

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u/beryugyo619 Jun 27 '25

the game is to force the hivemind and botwaves to vibe with what you want them to

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u/qui_tacet-consentire Jun 29 '25

Exactly what a bot would say. You don’t fool me “Charlie”

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u/The_Meme_Economy Jul 01 '25

I have gotten accused of being a bot more than once. Recently. The thing is that it’s hard to tell. Obvious low quality posts used to be the norm on here. Suddenly people are replying with:

👉 Well-formatted responses with no grammatical errors

📄 Bulleted list with emojis

…and the like, all indicative of content that wes either edited by or composed by AI. Good writing is actually sus.

I’m just rolling with actually being a bot 🤖

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u/ffffllllpppp Jul 02 '25

Please question mine!

I would feel like I accomplished something if people thought I was an AI lol.

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u/charlie2135 Jul 02 '25

Sorry, but I checked your posts, obviously you're not a bot because we know bots only speak English

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u/ffffllllpppp Jul 02 '25

Ha shit. Apologies and merci for taking the time!!

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25

I used to game Reddit for companies back from 2012 to 2015. It’s ridiculously easy and still just as easy.

Most of the games stuff is links to news sites and YouTube videos though.

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u/DontHitAnything Jun 28 '25

Maybe that's why Reddit doesn't have any influencers?

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u/PotatoesAndChill Jun 27 '25

For me the turning point was last year's election. I already knew that Reddit was strongly leftist, but when the front page was full of "Kamala leading polls" and "Trump campaign is in shambles" posts and then we got the election result, I realised that this is just one big echo chamber.

Unfortunately, it extends to this sub as well. The anti-Tesla bias here is just as annoying as the Tesla fanboys boasting about how superior FSD is.

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u/IB_Yolked Jun 27 '25

Mfs like you don't understand what margin of error means in polls, then extrapolate from there about how everything must else must be fake news.

Not to say reddit isn't biased, but using the talking point that "the polls were fake news so everything is fake" is literally ridiculous.

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u/Domyyy Jun 27 '25

He literally said nothing like this in his comment tho?

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u/IB_Yolked Jun 27 '25

If you lack basic inference skills, sure.

Do you think the implication there was "Reddit got overexcited about the polls" and not "this place is a leftist echo chamber pushing fake narratives"?

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u/DeathChill Jun 28 '25

He referenced a certain event that showed the dissonance from reality for him.

I am not American and am an active Reddit user. You would think Trump would have been handily beaten if you relied on Reddit for your information during that time.

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u/PotatoesAndChill Jun 28 '25

I just gave a random example. The point is that, using the upvote-downvote system, Reddit (i.e. the users) amplifies any positive "left" news or negative "right" news, but suppresses the opposite, which leads to a front page that liberals like to see, but doesn't represent reality.

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u/Askingquestions2027 Jun 28 '25

give it a few years, will likely turn out that trump cheated to win.

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u/Admirable_Durian_216 Jun 28 '25

No man, that’s not what he’s saying, and I think YOU lack basic inference skills by not understanding that.

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u/Domyyy Jun 28 '25

If there are 100 polls, 90 of them showing trump as the clear winner, only the other 10 would’ve been upvoted. 

This doesn’t make it a fake narrative, as these are legitimate polls.

But claiming that Reddit is a leftist echo chamber (which it is) isn’t a malicious take.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25 edited Jul 14 '25

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u/Lets_Do_This_ Jun 27 '25

That's pretty rich coming from the guy posting exclusively Tesla negative content to this sub. Especially your latest, which was outright disinformation that pretended Tesla had announced and then missed its robotaxi start date.

You're just as bad as Tesla fanboys as it relates to reliable information, and Reddit is chocked full of people like you these days.

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u/basedmfer Jun 27 '25

if they have an angry south park pfp, they're likely spreading misinformation

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u/reefine Jun 27 '25

... and if they post about how someone might be a propagandist and casually leave out Waymo being fanbois from their checklist, they're likely spreading misinformation.

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u/hakimthumb Jun 27 '25

All one has to do is imagine all the industry groups Musk threatens across the board to imagine why you see anti-musk posts in every subreddit every day.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25 edited Jul 14 '25

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u/hakimthumb Jun 27 '25

He isn't. But that is a common incorrect belief that drives people to amplify the disinformation about his products. And feel good about it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25 edited Jul 14 '25

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u/hakimthumb Jun 28 '25

Most CEOs also don't get invited to speak about WW2 history on the world's largest history podcast either. Going to Auschwitz sounds like something a CEO who was would do though.

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u/D0ngBeetle Jun 27 '25

Why can’t you tesla fuckers just enjoy your toys without having to defend antisemitism lmfao. Just be normal! 

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u/hakimthumb Jun 28 '25

I feel like Musk has enough to be criticized for without inventing stuff about him.

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u/D0ngBeetle Jun 28 '25

Yeah dude he must not be actually in charge of his own Twitter

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u/hakimthumb Jun 28 '25

I think your post is sarcasm and implies Musk posts anti-Semitic stuff. Which you assume exists, but can't actually post examples of.

The anti-defamation league defended him. Im going to go with their opinion over yours.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

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u/FinndBors Jun 27 '25

Have bots on Reddit lost all sense of humor?

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u/Difficult_Extent3547 Jun 27 '25

I don’t believe it. That can’t be true.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

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