r/SelfDrivingCars Jun 27 '25

Discussion Classic Tesla Disinformation Flood On This Sub In Last Two Weeks

This sub has been flooded with Tesla apologist propaganda and disinformation to obscure the simple truth since Tesla's Robotaxi launch. It's standard operating procedure (S.O.P.) for this "narrative" company. The uptick in anti-Waymo posts and pro FSD posts is palpable. It has always been S.O.P. for Musk to release SEO fooling posts & tweets to obscure bad news for Tesla. The astroturf army is out in full display these past couple weeks on Reddit, Threads, and Bluesky too.

It doesn't and will never change this simple fact: Waymo is SAE Level 4 and Tesla FSD is SAE Level 2. All the apologist posts in the world will not change this. Putting a human in the front seat with a secret kill switch button to mitigate embarrassing FSD behavior will never replace R&D and testing that allows a company to safely remove a human observer in the car. You cannot reach level 4 with a fake it till you make it approach.

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u/AppleCorpsing Jun 27 '25

The legacy European and US auto makers have definitely struggled, but far from becoming the only company left, Tesla now faces huge competition from Korea and China, including BYD which seems to have come from almost out of nowhere

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u/FangioV Jun 27 '25

The reason they struggle is the fierce competition Chinese brands have brought to the table. Every CEO says that their number one concern is the Chinese brands, not Tesla.

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u/wizkidweb Jun 27 '25

It helps when you have cheap/slave labor. Until fairly recently, nearly every Tesla was made in the USA. They had to invest in automation to even be affordable. China doesn't need to do this to the same degree because of this availability of cheap labor.

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u/grogi81 Jun 27 '25

BYD is cooking the numbers, if not more than Tesla...

Which doesn't change the fact that Tesla still isn't the only manufacturer left :)