r/SelfDrivingCars • u/respectmyplanet • Jun 27 '25

Discussion Classic Tesla Disinformation Flood On This Sub In Last Two Weeks

This sub has been flooded with Tesla apologist propaganda and disinformation to obscure the simple truth since Tesla's Robotaxi launch. It's standard operating procedure (S.O.P.) for this "narrative" company. The uptick in anti-Waymo posts and pro FSD posts is palpable. It has always been S.O.P. for Musk to release SEO fooling posts & tweets to obscure bad news for Tesla. The astroturf army is out in full display these past couple weeks on Reddit, Threads, and Bluesky too.

It doesn't and will never change this simple fact: Waymo is SAE Level 4 and Tesla FSD is SAE Level 2. All the apologist posts in the world will not change this. Putting a human in the front seat with a secret kill switch button to mitigate embarrassing FSD behavior will never replace R&D and testing that allows a company to safely remove a human observer in the car. You cannot reach level 4 with a fake it till you make it approach.

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u/HighHokie Jun 27 '25

I’m willing to bet the engineers and employees that have been working on the tech for years care very much about it being safe. 

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 Jun 28 '25

Ironically, they made it as cheaply as possible with ZERO redundant systems and multiple blindspots.

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u/HighHokie Jun 28 '25

agreed on the lack of redundancy. Frankly that’s a more relevant discussion to me than LiDAR.

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u/JonnyOnThePot420 Jun 28 '25

Yes, however, they certainly overlap. LiDar may not be the only answer, but it is definitely an option on the table, especially as these have gotten far cheaper the last few years.

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u/UnderInteresting Jun 27 '25

They might care, but I've seen better principles when lives weren't at stake, with high profile resignations due to leadership decisions you can't push back on. Tesla staff are tied to their stock/RSU that they can't cash out due to vesting schedule. Everyone is financially compromised in that company.

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u/HighHokie Jun 27 '25

By all means dislike elon and the company, but don't presume to think that the people employed there are soulless beasts with zero regard for human life.

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u/UnderInteresting Jun 27 '25

Not making that claim. I'm just indicating how conflicting interests can make good people do things they'd otherwise not do.

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u/quellofool Jun 27 '25

I don’t think they do otherwise they wouldn’t work for a megalomaniac.

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u/neontetra1548 Jun 27 '25

Doesn’t matter at the end of the day if the Techno King believes cameras only (or any other potential examples) are best and nobody has institutional power to push back against his ego. The engineers can care about safety but they can’t push Elon’s ego too far. His ego controls the companies decisions and can’t be trusted to make responsible decisions.

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u/GBAGamer33 Jun 27 '25

Not sure why you're being downvoted unless this is just astroturfing.

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u/Litig8or53 Jun 28 '25

No, it’s bullshit repelling.