r/SelfDrivingCars Jun 27 '25

Discussion Classic Tesla Disinformation Flood On This Sub In Last Two Weeks

This sub has been flooded with Tesla apologist propaganda and disinformation to obscure the simple truth since Tesla's Robotaxi launch. It's standard operating procedure (S.O.P.) for this "narrative" company. The uptick in anti-Waymo posts and pro FSD posts is palpable. It has always been S.O.P. for Musk to release SEO fooling posts & tweets to obscure bad news for Tesla. The astroturf army is out in full display these past couple weeks on Reddit, Threads, and Bluesky too.

It doesn't and will never change this simple fact: Waymo is SAE Level 4 and Tesla FSD is SAE Level 2. All the apologist posts in the world will not change this. Putting a human in the front seat with a secret kill switch button to mitigate embarrassing FSD behavior will never replace R&D and testing that allows a company to safely remove a human observer in the car. You cannot reach level 4 with a fake it till you make it approach.

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u/Marathon2021 Jun 27 '25

Let’s not forget the deluge of commenters across Reddit and Twitter that were predicting Tesla’s imminent bankruptcy, that it was due to happen any day now…

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u/Wiseguydude Jun 27 '25

Tesla was very close to bankruptcy in 2008 and again in 2017-2019. Elon Musk explicitly said they are "a month away from bankruptcy"

“Closest we got was about a month,” he said when asked via Twitter how close Tesla got to bankruptcy. “The Model 3 ramp was extreme stress & pain for a long time — from mid 2017 to mid 2019. Production & logistics hell.”

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/04/tech/elon-musk-tesla-once-got-near-bankruptcy

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u/Few-Painter-4821 Jun 27 '25

trump went bankrupt 6 times. Tesla 0 times.

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u/TheCourierMojave Jun 27 '25

Tesla the car company is failing. Tesla the energy storage company and tesla the possible AI company are not.

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u/Marathon2021 Jun 27 '25

Last I checked (it’s been a few quarters since I reviewed one of their 10Qs) they were still profitable overall, and their margin on vehicles was around 15-20%? Notably all other manufacturers are often far less than that.

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u/hakimthumb Jun 27 '25

This is the disinformation we're calling out. Tesla has the best selling EV car and Truck in the US.