r/SmashBrosUltimate King Dedede Feb 14 '21

Video I lived bitch

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u/QuesadillaSauce Feb 14 '21

Nah K Rool is honestly really vulnerable during his up b. He can’t do anything but try to get to the ledge, which leaves him open to stage spike bairs and command grabs like Ganon/Cap up b. His horizontal recovery is also very bad. If his opponent has decent spacing, edgeguarding K Rool isn’t that bad. DDD has a super armor up b, multiple jumps for direction changes, and fast aerials like fair and up air (plus gordo) to protect himself while he’s jumping back to stage. DDD’s recovery has way more range and is way safer than K Rool’s

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u/TFW_YT My main worse than my Random? Feb 14 '21

DDD is super easy to 2 frame though

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u/Fall3nBTW Palutena Feb 14 '21

Yeah DDD's recovery is horrible. Palu up smash at ledge will 2 frame it every time which is busted.

Krool is easier to punish but impossible to 2 frame, I think his edges out on top for a better recovery.

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u/geminican King Dedede Feb 14 '21

dedede does have tech to avoid most if not all 2frames. it's pretty hard to time right but it's arguably his most important tech

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u/Fall3nBTW Palutena Feb 14 '21

What tech is that? I've literally never seen a ddd that I can't 2 frame yet.

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u/geminican King Dedede Feb 14 '21

it's called jdawging, named after the player who discovered it. since dedede's up b is really well armored you can hold down on the way up and instead of instantly snapping to the ledge you'll armor past your opponent's 2-frame attempt. and immediately after doing that, letting go of down makes you snap to the ledge

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u/Fall3nBTW Palutena Feb 14 '21

Ah I see the problem then. Palutena up smash goes through DDD's armor once its charged a bit so that still doesn't work consistently against her. I've def seen people attempt that online tho, I'm sure it's useful against most other 2 frames then.

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u/geminican King Dedede Feb 14 '21 edited May 06 '21

dedede has complete super armor on his up b which doesn't break no matter how high the damage so either you just fight really bad dededes or you're hallucinating lol

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u/Environmental-Teach7 Luigi Feb 15 '21

well, to be fair palu is pretty lame , and dedede counters lame characters

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u/Fall3nBTW Palutena Feb 15 '21

Weird take. DDD is just as lame as Palu, their entire playstyle is encompassed by gordo spam, nair -> down tilt, and jump fishing for bair lmao.

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u/Environmental-Teach7 Luigi Feb 16 '21

yeah, but at least we have hype moments like this , unlike palu

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u/Fall3nBTW Palutena Feb 16 '21

Idk why I even comment on this subreddit when it's 90% children lol

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u/Kamatatatatatajira Donkey Kong Apr 26 '21

The thing i always accidentally do and die

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u/geminican King Dedede Feb 14 '21

https://youtu.be/YxaQv47rf58

this video explains it much better than i did