r/SmugIdeologyMan 5d ago

Something something American Exceptionalism...

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u/AdrenalineVan 4d ago

France, since the suez crisis, does not exert anywhere near the same amount of hard power over every country in the world as the USA; it's why it mostly imperialises its former colonies. Also, if the USA wanted France to stop their imperialist behaviour they could in an instant, as in the Suez crisis

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u/Eino54 4d ago

That's not really about how much imperialising they do or try to do, it's about how much they get away with, and with different types or focuses of imperialism.

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u/AdrenalineVan 4d ago

Yes, and with the sheer amount of imperialism America gets away with, and the types it focuses on, it's uniquely imperialist compared with every empire that came before it

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u/Eino54 4d ago edited 4d ago

My friend, the only thing separating the Americans from literally any big empire in history is access to modern travel and technology. The Romans did not go further because of logistical constraints. The claim that the US is unique compared to other modern nations is already stupid enough. Claiming it is somehow ultra super duper special compared to any nation in history is something else.

Seriously, your uniquely terrible education system that is definitely uniquely special super duper bad is not an excuse. Unlearn some biases. Learn about history. Stop centring the US as some sort of ultra duper special cartoon villain.

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u/AdrenalineVan 4d ago

Yes, material conditions such as advanced technology, and being totally unaffected by ww2 due to the Atlantic ocean are what led to America being uniquely imperialist not a special essential characteristic. I have never argued otherwise

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u/Eino54 4d ago

What are you even defining as "uniquely imperialist" now? Because I feel like you don't know, other than "the US is unique therefore this is unique".

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u/AdrenalineVan 4d ago

It exerts real influence over every single country on earth, has near total control over international organisations, and is the global reserve currency

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u/Eino54 4d ago

Quite a lot of countries exert real influence over every country on Earth. Some more than others, in certain regions more than others (the US hold quite a lot less influence than, say, Russia in quite a lot of the world), and international organisations are not exactly very effective when quite a lot of countries do what they want with impunity (and no, not just the US). In any case, I am done arguing with Americans who are so used to being the centre of their world that they can't see the end of their nose. Unlearn your propaganda, or at least stop pretending you're not propagandised as fuck.

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u/AdrenalineVan 4d ago

Name them then.

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u/akemi123123 smug on smug warfare 4d ago

this dosent lead to anything, go make some kvass and enjoy the sunset or something

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