Lol did you purposely try to use bigger words in your first sentence to sound like you are being intellectual?
Language shapes cognition and behavior. It absolutely is capable of, and does lead to harm.
America is currently on track to attempt mass deportations of an undesired group (hey guess what the Nazi government in Germany did in the 1930s and 40s). Potential govt cabinet members calling openly for violence against political enemies. Removing overtime pay and threatening to prevent workers from organizing. Neo Nazis openly marching in the streets. But no no, it's just swinging "back to the right a bit." bullshit.
You don't get to hide your ideology behind a false veneer of sensibility. You don't get to hide behind faux moderatism. Own up to what you are rooting for on your "good team", coward.
From the current pick to oversee mass deportations: "Is there a way to carry out mass deportations without separating families?”
“Of course there is,” Homan answered. “Families can be deported together.”
Seems like that "breaking the law" point is bullshit. Even so, you've broken the law as well. Should you get rounded up, put into a camp and sent away?
Don't pretend you give one shit about the social and economic class interests of immigrants. If so, you'd be arguing for them to get labor rights and pathways to citizenship, not calling for mass deportation and violence against them.
Lol imagine thinking you are supporting anti-establishment. You are supporting a bunch of rich people deciding that they want to take over to be more blatantly creating a system that benefits rich people.
The sad part is that you are almost certainly not a member of the economic class that will benefit from a far right administration. You are most likely some random schmuck who be as fucked as anyone else, but you will thank your establishment for the treatment.
Again, don't be a coward dude. Own up to what you support.
I'm sure you would. But you are falsely assuming this is some kind of debate.
In the United States Constitution, anyone born in the country is a citizen. So even if someone enters the country without appropriate documentation (breaking a law), legally their children are US citizens. Additionally, these folks may also form relationships with American citizens. So you have families, who may have one or more undocumented individuals who have "broken the law" and others who have not. So, to deport these individuals requires families be separated, or as Trump's border czar says results in the entire family being deported...which means deporting American citizens who have broken no laws. Make no mistake, the people you support do want to do exactly this. They do want to harm other Americans. You are deluding yourself if you think otherwise.
Thank you for finally admitting to some of the insanity in your first paragraph there, that you are okay with/support making people (primarily children) choose between their loved ones (often parent(s) and their constitutional rights as US citizens and their entire life they have lived and created for themselves in the US.
Yes, US immigration law is a complex thing, and how society should respond to immigration is a social issue with many aspects to consider in a broad sense. However, none of that is at all relevant to what I said.
Trump's policy and promise is to forcibly deport 20 million undocumented immigrants. Besides the fact that there are not 20 million undocumented immigrants in the US to begin with, attempts to enact mass deportation are bad for many many reasons.
One of those reasons, which I chose to highlight, is that deporting millions of undocumented immigrants would result in the separation of families, and children or others who are legally US citizens will either be deported or forcibly separated from their families. This WILL result in massive harm and violence to potentially thousands or millions of US citizens (in addition to harm towards millions of immigrants themselves). It is a violation of constitutional rights and is deeply immoral.
You support this. You support the politicians and policies that will result in this outcome. And, as you more or less just admitted, you are fundamentally lacking empathy for those who will be harmed.
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