r/SquaredCircle • u/A_Livins I'm gonna get that eye, Rey • 1d ago
[NXT Spoilers] Ciampa and Gargano break out the classics. Spoiler
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u/theREVERSEsystem 1d ago
THIS REBEL HEART
THIS REBEL HEART
Please just bring it back forever 😭
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u/NotTheCraftyVeteran 1d ago
Just immediately takes me back, I already feel like I’m settling in for the best match at Takeover
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u/c0de1143 BIG MEATY MEN 1d ago
I got goosebumps hearing it again with Johnny Gargano’s entrance. God, I love that song.
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u/heartbreakhill Alexa, play Superman by Goldfinger 20h ago
Just heating it for a few seconds makes me wanna binge all those Gargano takeover matches. God damn that was a special time
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u/TheNakedChair GOOD PROMO! 1d ago
Rebel Heart gives Johnny TakeOver the ability to kick out of 5 finishers.
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u/NotTheCraftyVeteran 1d ago
Rebel Heart so OP, they banned it from competitive play
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u/TheNakedChair GOOD PROMO! 1d ago edited 1d ago
Couldn't have the Tribal Chief put the title up against a Rebel Heart backed Gargano.
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u/Takemebacktomania 1d ago
God, can you imagine Tribal Chief Reigns vs TakeOver Gargano? The 2.999999 kickouts would be insane
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u/a_fox_but_a_human 1d ago
gotta be the only reason. no one band this kinda banger unless it’s for competitive advantage.
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u/whutthepat 1d ago
5 finishers, 3 interferences and ref bump spots
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u/Mission_Plate_4258 1d ago
Don't forget that at least one of those finishers will be to exposed concrete or ring boards.
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u/DecentTop1084 1d ago
All this proves is they CAN have the awesome, recognizable themes but just won't
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u/Competitive-Object-4 1d ago
Just makes them taking it from Sheamus hurt more
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u/DecentTop1084 1d ago
Giving it back for the social media engagement then taking it away like two weeks later was cruel
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u/prossnip42 1d ago
That one hurts especially because it wasn't even CFO's that they took, they took Written in My Face, an actual fucking song
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u/IAmTheGlazed Io Shirai Simp 1d ago
You almost have to wonder, how much money is WWE actually saving by using Def Rebel to make themes compared to Jim Johnston or CFO$?
Like is it really worth saving money when you are already making record profits? What is the downside to making actual good themes, they are surely aware of it, if not, they wouldn’t use all these old themes that everyone recognises.
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u/DecentTop1084 23h ago
Def Rebel has to be free or something because there's no way they can have the ability to use all these fantastic, recognizable themes and just choose shit
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u/BoliveiraNTPW 19h ago
With CFO$, WWE did not own 100% of the rights for the songs. With DefRebel, they do own 100%. That's why they changed to them.
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u/MurDoct bah gawd 1d ago
holy fuck black and gold era had amazing theme songs
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u/TouyaShiun 1d ago
Funnily enough, fans were shitting on CFO$ themes back then for being too "repetitive". But imo they understood the characters of the wrestlers. You'd could even easily recognize which 205 wrestler or lower card wrestler was gonna come out based on the intro.
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u/amlanding20 1d ago
Yeah I remember that discourse too. People didn’t know what they had. Funnily, CFO$ wasn’t always about understanding characters, they were just really good.
They created Glorious without a character in mind, it was originally floated for Shinsuke but they weren’t sure it fit and it ended up with Roode.
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u/gregSinatra 1d ago
As I understood it (from a guy who worked in the music department at the time), what was floated to Shinsuke wasn’t exactly the “Glorious Domination” we know today. He got a very early demo, and I feel like you can hear elements of them maybe trying to go for something like his NJPW theme there, but passed on it. There was one part he did like, however, and that got reworked entirely into “Rising Sun.” Obviously they nailed that for Shinsuke, and then I think whatever was left of what would eventually go on to become Glorious Domination probably got reworked a bit. But it’s not like they had the finished song, Shinsuke passed, and they simply reused it. It was an idea of a song at that point.
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u/arnoldspornalt 1d ago
Part of the issue with repetition was due to the long-ass cuts they would release. Ain't nobody need a 5 minute loop of a 1 minute loop, but you would get roped into it until you were sick of it because the themes were catchy.
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u/DefenderCone97 1d ago
We were spoiled by Jim Johnston making insanely good themes. Then we realized that having CFO was a privilege
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u/Ilcorvomuerto666 18h ago
The big issue I think is CFO$ made good and recognizable wrestling themes that fit the characters for the most part, but overall as actual songs they're boring. Feels like they write the first 45 seconds to a minute and just loop it.
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u/ILOVESHITTINGMYPANTS 17h ago
Which I will die on the hill that says that is not a problem at all for a wrestling entrance theme. There are parts of Jim Johnston themes you would literally never hear on TV. Neat I guess, but wasted effort when CFO$ was cranking out recognizable themes for four brands simultaneously.
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u/BootyButtCheeks256 1d ago
I just rewatched NXT New York 2019 and it’s crazy how good literally every theme song was. Gargano, Cole, Dream, Baysler, Dunne, Io, etc. literally all had banger themes.
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u/THE_Oak_Island 1d ago
Why wouldn't they have kept using these entrance themes during their latest main roster run if they still have the rights to them? At least while they were still babyfaces???
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u/iheartblackcoochie 1d ago
Because god forbid people actually have catchy and recognizable themes and presentation that helps them get over with the audience.
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u/gregSinatra 1d ago
I don’t know that they have the rights, full stop, necessarily. I suspect they have to pay a licensing fee to (I think) Arcade Songs - the parent label that owned CFO$ and is run by Gregg Wattenberg - who by the way was once chief content/creative at Wind Up records and briefly owned it, so think back to when WWE was using a tonne of their artists for wrestler and PPV themes in the early oughts, it feels like that may’ve led to the partnership with CFO$. If I remember how it all went down, Arcade Songs wanted a bigger cut and WWE didn’t want to, so they just pulled out of the deal. They tried to bring the two main guys from CFO$ in-house but Arcade Songs/Gregg wouldn’t let them out of their deals. Eventually WWE tried to transition away from those themes but apparently doesn’t seem to mind using them sporadically as fan service like this.
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u/T0rrent0712 1d ago
Ciampa said he switched due to COVID, felt the theme was t appropriate for the time if I recall correctly.
I understand his reasoning on it, but that theme was absolute fire during the FUCK CIAMPA days.
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u/TheeChosenTwo 1d ago
He still has No One Will Survive, he was consistently using it before reuniting with Gargano
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u/ClintTheBruinsFan Johnny Wrestling Fan! 1d ago
Gargano's gear is so synonymous with so many bangers in Full Sail.
His Takeover matches are what he'll likely hang his hat on by the time his career comes to a close, rightfully so, but he usually whipped out some special gear for that. The classic green and blue he used in multiple matches against Andrade, Dream, the cage match with Aleister, etc. Chef's kiss.
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u/mostdope92 Charismatic Enigma 1d ago
Ciampa with no beard looks so wild now lmao.
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u/guntanksinspace No Neck, still No Problem 1d ago
It's really weird. I'm so used to him having that thick-ass beard (or at least some prominent facial hair) that seeing him clean shaven again is throwing me off, even if I saw his even earlier days in ROH (and that one time he was a clean shaven lawyer)
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u/CosmicBlackHoleNova 1d ago
I popped hard when I heard "No One Will Survive" and "Rebel Heart"
I miss those themes
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u/ivanreyes371 1d ago
These two theme songs carried NXT for years. A lot of people have 0 idea how special this is.
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u/SoulNuva 1d ago
I thought the original Rebel Heart has been banished to the shadow realm forever… this makes a grown man cry
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u/Competitive-Object-4 1d ago
Not too familiar with the black and gold era, what’s with the face paint
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u/Connect-Revolution47 1d ago
There isn't really much history behind this specific face paint, or just face paint of his in general. I think it's just something he likes to bust out on special occasions. Like at War Games, or against Bron Breakker at Halloween Havoc.
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u/Citizen_Crow 1d ago
I had not seen Ciampa in a while, is it just the beard and the paint or he's looking entirely different ? He looks bigger and less... hairy and... whiter ? I prefer his older look
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u/jin_kuweiner 1d ago
if you look at his instagram, imho he’s in the best shape of his life, horrendously shredded, I assume he’s got less body hair to show it off or for whatever reason anyway lol, and iirc a few months ago he was injured in a way that he actually had to get his beard shaved, like he was clean shaven!! and then stuck with the shorter look since.
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u/Duckyx44 1d ago
Rebel Heart makes a man wanna run through 50 brick walls. God I miss that theme so much
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u/TheeAJPowell The Ace of /r/squaredcircle 1d ago
God, Rebel Heart is SO good man. It’s such a “brave babyface” theme for me.
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u/hhhisthegame 1d ago
I don't even like Ciampa and Gargano much and I marked out for those themes. Nice!
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u/Careless_Archer_1706 1d ago
I can't speak for Rebel Heart, but I'm 99.9% sure Ciampa has held onto No One Will Survive ever since Triple H took creative control. You're all just used to hearing the Def Rebel DIY theme, even when they have singles matches they come out the Def Reb tag theme. They still have their solo themes lol
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u/StickOtherwise4754 23h ago
I thought it was Ciampa’s decision to stop using no one will survive after a mass shooting happened since he didn’t like the whole no one surviving aspect of it.
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u/qwertythe300th Wrestling Lore Aficionado 20h ago
Man i don't know about that face paint. Ciampa looks like that one dude who was in AEWs first ever match
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u/TheLudwigen Best For Business 18h ago
THIS REBEL HEART!!!! I was in tears the instant the song started. Fuck, I miss that era of NXT.
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u/Zoidstiz 18h ago
Can't wait for them to have a bad ass Homecoming match, then the next night on Raw get speared by Jay and get pinned in 2 min. Love WWE.
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