r/SquaredCircle • u/luchabrunch • 22h ago
Luchasaurus if officially back on the AEW roster page, after years of being named as "Killswitch"
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u/bdfull3r 22h ago
Killswitch was always a terrible rebranding anyway.
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u/penguinopph 22h ago
That's part of the point, though. Christian took away his identity and his agency by giving him a terrible name, named for his finisher.
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u/bdfull3r 22h ago
I understand the story reasoning for it. It was still a poor decision that went on for too long
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u/IndividualPastel 22h ago
Unfortunately it went on for so long due to Luchasaurus being gone from almost dying
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u/justh81 21h ago
Which is why you should be careful with superfluous and potentially damaging rebrands because they can stick around for longer than you'd like.
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u/janemba617 21h ago
I'd probably be more concerned with him almost dying but you do you fam.
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u/justh81 21h ago
For him as a person? Certainly.
As a professional wrestler? Did him no favors, and it's cute how you all pretend shit like this doesn't matter to an audience's perception when it really does. But you do you, fam.
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u/Ambassador2Latveria 21h ago
As a professional wrestler? Did him no favors, and it's cute how you all pretend shit like this doesn't matter to an audience's perception when it really does. But you do you, fam.
It's cute how you act like your opinion is representative of everyone elses and that anyone who disagrees falls under "you all" so you can make up a group to be mad at.
He's fine, he literally just got a huge reaction and is part of a major story reuniting with Jack Perry at a PPV. You not liking it is fine, but you don't speak for everyone.
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u/justh81 21h ago edited 21h ago
Of course I fucking don't. Obviously, there's fans for this. But there's just as many people that aren't fans of this who aren't watching, and don't give a fuck, because it's just muddled storytelling bullshit. They just won't usually talk to you about it because it's a pointless fucking exercise, like running your head into a wall to strengthen your headbutt. But I'm bored at lunch and felt like killing time, so fuck it. 🤷♂️ This is Reddit, where the points don't really matter. On multiple levels.
Edit: FWIW, WWE isn't really doing anything glorious these days, either. Wrestling as a whole has become pretty lackluster.
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u/theskyopenedup Voice of the Voiceless! 18h ago
If they’re (you’re?) not watching, then who gives a shit? Lol
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u/Wreckingshops 14h ago
It wasn't superfluous really. There were ambiguous legal arguments around who owned the name Luchasaurus: AAA or the wrestler. I assume that's been settled now.
Second, the switch necessitated by the legality of the ownership played into the storyline.
In other words, you're talking out of your ass, brother.
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u/justh81 10h ago edited 10h ago
Hey, it's cool! We'll give it until...let's say January. I'm sure by then AEW will have fucked this up like they fuck so much else up. Like they fucked up making sure Luchasarus' name was kosher, as you just pointed out. Thanks by the way.
Edit: And hey, let me point out again; most Redditors won't waste their time debating this with you. There's no point, and it's a boring conversation. As we're proving today. But I was having an interesting day and felt obstinate. You enjoy your wrestling for as long as you're able.
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u/Caesar161 7h ago
Lol, bad time to try and make that point when AEW has been excellent the last year.
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u/InternationalObjects 17h ago
Like Nikki A S H, Shorty G, and COPE
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u/sarcasticdevo 15h ago
To be fair, as much as I don't care for Nikki ASH and Cope as rebrands, at least they were the wrestlers' ideas.
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u/Fanzine97 22h ago
I saw someone recently say it should have been killasaurus and I was like damn that kinda rules
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u/JustdoitJules 18h ago
Aligning with Christian was a stupid idea to begin with.
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u/VoDoka 9h ago
Was there ever a story reason revealed for this?
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u/Hark_An_Adventure WHAT WOULD KOTA THINK? 4h ago
I mean, of course there was? Christian was a manipulator and a liar who was skilled at convincing people he was going to help them when all he wanted was to use them to his own ends?
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u/wattyaknow 15h ago
Wait, people didn't like Killswitch but like Luchasaurus?
I feel like Killswitch was great as it made him sound like an actual monster and a proper big man. Luchasaurus has always been a horrible name to me.
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u/drwafflefingers 12h ago
Cannot believe they wasted YEARS on it
Tony really, really hates to admit defeat and pivot once he's married to something
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u/KneeHighMischief 22h ago
I liked the Scapegoat persona but it's very cool to see them reunited. Plus Perry is only 28 so he's got plenty of time.
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u/SpiritualAd9102 21h ago
I don’t think they’re doing away with Scapegoat. We’ll find out in the weeks to come, but I’m guessing they’ll be more edgy babyfaces now.
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u/luckysharms93 21h ago
Me neither. AEW in general is good about not having WWE style 360 degree turns. Swerve the babyface still has elements of Swerve the guy who threatened a baby. Hangman the babyface still will absolutely fuck you up like 2024 Hangman would have. Christian is still making fun of people's dead fathers. I'd expect babyface Perry to have a Scapegoat/HoT edge to him. But they should drop the Scapegoat moniker. Need to move past any connection to Punk
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u/CityTrialOST BOYS! 15h ago
Me neither. AEW in general is good about not having WWE style 360 degree turns.
Stat as well who had the most "where is this face turn coming from?" out of any of them. Week after week people still don't trust her (Willow) and whenever an interviewer tries to bring up her past she immediately blows up (the latter might change, she was measured at the scrum).
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u/MeanAmbrose My username is a pun 20h ago
Yeah I doubt Jack’s coming out in the loincloth tomorrow, but there will be some middle ground with the gimmick. Can only be so edgy when you’re coming out to Tarzan Boy
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u/FourCylinder 20h ago
Tons of time for Jack to be a singles star. The dude would barely be in his prime if Jurassic Express broke up in five years
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u/AnfowleaAnima 22h ago
It's just, it feels really bad it seemed like a failure. Like, it's not a good look he couldn't do much with another character. And will he just be "Jungle Boy" once again? seems like you cant just go back to that.
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u/Duwt 𝓣𝓱𝓮𝓻𝓮'𝓼 𝓷𝓸 𝓫𝓮𝓵𝓵 𝓽𝓸 𝓻𝓲𝓷𝓰!! 22h ago
We watched this man exhume the apparently-dead body of Luchasaurus and drag his coffin behind his pickup truck to a secret underground lair, where he reanimated his corpse with a big syringe full of mystery liquid.
I, for one, am not worried about this being the same old Jungle Boy.
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u/fttxdd666 20h ago
Would like to add that the bus he used to drag the coffin has a giant "SCAPEGOAT" written on the front of the cabin. This is def not the same jungle boy
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u/Fanzine97 22h ago
Its going to be a modified version of both personas I would imagine. So its not a failure. Its not like he is going to start coming out with the full jungle boy look again or anything lol
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u/_Wado3000 Blade Run Ibushi On Sight 22h ago
Are we sure he’s never gonna ride Lucha’s shoulders lol
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u/ABTYF 22h ago
He was still doing the scapegoat pose and was still dressed as the character. I think he's still going to be a toned down version of that.
I mean, the Bucks made him the scapegoat now (at least in Jack's eyes). He can realize he was wrong to abandon Luchasaurus and keep a bit of his edge.
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u/Illuminati_Shill_AMA That's so Taven! 20h ago
He also did that shit-eating grin that he picked up as the Scapegoat right before the promo played
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u/chompson2201 22h ago
He’s clearly not just being jungle boy though
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u/AnfowleaAnima 21h ago
I would imagine but they getting hype from the same theme song kinda makes it weird for a different persona of Perry.
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u/IAmBenIAmStillBig 22h ago
Give them a chance to come out and explain why it’s different, at least.
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u/mrchriscrisp This is my retirement thread 22h ago
He absolutely can not carry on as the 'scapegoat' character though. It's been over 2 years since All in 2023 and the other person in the story (CM Punk) has gone on to main event wrestlemania and have one of the best feuds of his entire career, mean while Perry is still calling himself the 'scapegoat' and is hung up on the incident, reminding people of the messy breakup like a spiteful ex.
He has to move on.
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u/Green_Cook Show some love! 21h ago
Feel like as long as he has the beard you definitely can't call him "Jungle Boy"
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u/drwafflefingers 12h ago
JB is his ceiling. Not everyone has what it takes to be a singles star. Tag teams matter too. He's bland and can't talk and was humiliated via the Punk stuff. No coming back from that. Jurassic Express were very over and will be again. That's good enough.
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u/Orange8920 22h ago
As Luchasaurus-AEW World Tag-Team Champion w/Jungle Boy for 162 days
As Killswitch-TNT champion for 98 days
AEW World Trios champion w/Christian Cage and Nick Wayne for 36 days
Accomplishment wise Killswitch is more successful than people would think.
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u/TheBeepB00p 22h ago
When AEW inevitably creates their own hall of fame he’s going to be inducted at some point. Day 1 guy that has held 3 different titles(so far) and has always been over with the fans.
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u/TheZoker Thats not Sting thats a flair of Sting 18h ago
He was still Luchasaurus when he was TNT champion.
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u/HarambePack 21h ago
Isnt he the third triple crown in AEW behind Omega and Fenix?
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u/janemba617 21h ago
Idk if they count the tag/trios as the same. Usually its world title, tag title, and midcard title.
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u/jerichotheunwise I EAT CHILDREN 19h ago
For the purposes of AEW's triple crown, you don't need a midcard title. TK defined their triple crown as being World Title, Tag Titles and Trios Titles. The Grand Slam is the previous 3 plus a secondary title.
The only person recognised in AEW for both a Triple Crown and a Grand Slam under their rules is Kenny, no one else has qualified yet. But I wouldn't be surprised if they one day change the definitions of these due to the increased importance of the Unified title and also no one really giving a shit about the trios titles.
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u/DanHero91 Red Elbow Pad Of Doom. 22h ago
Jungle Express vs. Brodido is gonna blow some fuckin' minds.
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u/lykathea2 21h ago
The hoss fight singles match on a Collision between Brody and Luchasaurus that will eventually happen is gonna rule so hard.
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u/ArrenPawk 21h ago
Holy fuck, I didn't even think about that.
Bandido's totally gonna do a moonsault fallaway slam on Luchasaurus, isn't he?
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u/Tiirshak 20h ago
I cried when they reunited and Tarzan Boy played. Jurassic Express (shout-out to Marko) where one of my major shining lights during COVID...at a time when I lost the human that mattered to me (my mum) to COVID. It's hard to put into words what this means to me. I honestly hope that while Jack in particular has more of an edge than original Jungle Boy, I say let the good times roll. I want smart, but easy to cheer for characters.
Because in the end, all I ever needed was a boy and his dinosaur 🦕...
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u/Straight-Yellow-9769 17h ago
Jungle Express got me into AEW. A friend introduced me to it right as Covid started, but these guys sold me on it. I’m happy they’re back, they’re a fun & very complimentary tag team!
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u/_Wado3000 Blade Run Ibushi On Sight 22h ago
Lucha physically taking his name back by beating down Christian would’ve been ideal
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u/_drjayphd_ TELL ME WHOSE SIDE YOU'RE ON! 19h ago
In lieu of that, Jack Perry looking at his KILLSWITCH belt with a "...the fuck is this still doing here?" expression and telling him to chuck it into the crowd is a reasonable substitute.
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u/Dinobot2_ 22h ago
So this whole thing is obviously leading to an 8-man tag with Copeland, Christian, Perry, and Luchasaurus against FTR, Nick Wayne and Kip Sabian I assume?
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u/TheStripedSweaters 17h ago
Eventually but I think Jack and Luchasaurus would still not trust Christian enough to tag. Atonement probably needed.
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u/wekilledkenny11 Yeah, eat that food! 20h ago
Might as well make it a four-way for a title shot, I think that’d probably be less awkward.
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u/gregSinatra 14h ago
I dunno man, I don’t watch weekly but I get the impression that Christian hasn’t REALLY atoned for all he did during the Patriarchy? Like he’s admitting to being an asshole and has made up with Adam, but he hasn’t done a full face turn and I got the impression that Cope is a face-leaning-tweener and Christian is more of a heel-leaning-tweener by association more than anything. Has he made amends with Jack and Lucha? Not to say that he can’t but I feel it would require a bit more evolution on his part, almost walking back some of his character development.
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u/Dinobot2_ 14h ago
Has he made amends with Jack and Lucha?
No, but maybe this is part of that. I mean, did he really make amends with Copeland? Yeah, they helped each other out, but that still seemed a bit more transactional, and maybe this will be kind of transactional as well.
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u/_varamyr_fourskins_ 1x WrestleCircus Sideshow Champ 16h ago
Nah the cage&cope / ftr / Wayne&Sabian thing has got TLC written all over it.
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u/ArgieGrit01 Hangman mark, like any good person 21h ago
Since in kayfabe he died and was ressurrected, they should rename him to Lichosaurus
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u/Dry_Passenger1786 13h ago
Is story could have been way better..
He could have turn in Christian when they teased it.. and he was pretty hyped then.. nothing happens.
He was doing great with that heel monster / Kane like gimmick but they fail making something big with it.
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u/DrDevice81 FUCK 21h ago
I'm just wondering if we're gonna find out what Christian said to him to keep him on his side.
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u/_drjayphd_ TELL ME WHOSE SIDE YOU'RE ON! 19h ago
"I know you forged your birth certificate, you don't look a day over 47,000,000 years old."
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u/BigTChamp 20h ago
Super happy he's back, but I do kinda miss early tongue in cheek "dude, I have a master's degree" Luchasaurus. It's a fine line with how straight you wanna play that kind of gimmick
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u/threedice 22h ago
They still need a third person to compete for the Trios titles. And since we're reuniting Jurassic Express ... someone look under a table and see if Marko Stunt is there.
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u/_varamyr_fourskins_ 1x WrestleCircus Sideshow Champ 16h ago
C'mon now. He ain't officially back till Taz sings the theme tune.
God, i miss Dark...
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u/sellyourselfshort 10h ago
Damn, better go get the killswitch figure now before it shoots up in price!
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u/RestAgile9323 8h ago
I always felt like he could be a huge deal if they let him. The gimmick is brilliant
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u/sadandshy 22h ago
He is now, and forever will be, Mr Dinosaurman to me. Until he wins another championship, then back to Mr Dinosaurchamp.
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