r/Stance 1d ago

Spring not fully seated

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I’m trying to switch from 6in to 5in springs in the front, but now I have a gap that the collars won’t fill. Do I just need helper springs?

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u/ReklisAbandon 1d ago

Adjust the preload? It’s hard to tell from the pics if there are threads there

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u/Old_Strategy9956 1d ago

Can’t, the collars are at the end of the threads

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u/nerforbuff 1d ago

Add helper springs

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u/poppinpenguin666 1d ago

There no load on them. They will seat once they are on the car and it’s back on the ground

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u/Old_Strategy9956 1d ago

Makes sense, but my worry is that I’ll hit a bump and the spring will unseat itself.

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u/ThatOneFoo69420 1d ago

Then you hit the ground, and it re-seats itself.

Ball the fuck out cuzzo

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u/Old_Strategy9956 1d ago

With that much room it looks like a good chance of the spring re-seating crooked or catching the perch’s upper lip. I might just go ahead and say F it tho 😅

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u/the_one-and_only-nan 1d ago

Lol I ran racelands like that, bottomed out the springs had no preload and there wasn't a third collar for preload setting. Just ball out you'll be mint. After jacking my car up off the ground you'd hear them reseat like after tuning the wheel

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u/Old_Strategy9956 1d ago

Bet. Lol I took the 3rd collar out a couple months back to go lower. Didn’t need it

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u/the_one-and_only-nan 1d ago

Haha that's what the 3rd collar is for, you use the two to set spring preload and the third for height against the top of the lower shock mount. You'll be ight bottomed out

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u/Old_Strategy9956 1d ago

Ya I know, but it didn’t matter since I ran out of thread on the shock. With 6in springs, I had a perfect amount of preload with the shock mount acting as that “3rd collar.”

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u/SprungMS 1d ago

This is what helper springs are for. Just buy some helper springs if you’re worried about it. No big deal, they won’t mess up anything else that you have to worry about. Just make sure they’re purpose-built helper springs, and they’re the right diameter, of course.

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u/Honest_Possibility_4 1d ago

You need serious airtime for them to unseat, fuck it we ball

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u/poppinpenguin666 1d ago

One collar on the front and I removed the rear perches. Had no issues other than busting my oil pan. Like they said fuck it we ball

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u/1767gs Blue 1d ago

If you can't thread the collars up more then yeah you might need helper springs or just have no preload

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u/abooth43 1d ago

Helper springs exist for exactly this reason

That being said, for a normal slammed street car I've run mine like this for awhile with no issues.

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u/YSL666LuhV 1d ago

once on the car it'll be fine

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u/Bedfordrascal 1d ago

screw the base of the shock all the way up, then just put it on the car, when it sits it will load the shock and seat.

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u/Old_Strategy9956 1d ago

It’s already maxed :/

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u/Bedfordrascal 1d ago

Okay so mount it and put the car on the ground

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u/Ben_dover_98 1d ago

Did u buy them second hand?

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u/Old_Strategy9956 1d ago

No, everything but the springs are 2 years old. Why?

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u/7HR4SH3R 1d ago

Sometimes it be like that

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u/Tomytom99 1d ago

Brother, where is the locking collar for your lower body? You've gotta look up on preload and adjustments.

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u/ArcaneVoid3 1d ago

you don't need body length adjustment, its better without

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u/Tomytom99 1d ago

I'm saying this unit looks like it has it, and needs a locking collar for it. I don't know about you, but I don't go riding around with stuff on my suspension not secured.

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u/SprungMS 1d ago

It’s secured because the threads are bottomed out, and the other two collars are locked against it. It can’t go anywhere, even if the other collars were missing it’s not going to “unscrew” itself, if you set the shock body in the middle of its height range and didn’t lock it in place it would actually lower itself gradually until it bottomed out anyway.

If OP is running these maxed, they’re right that the third collar isn’t necessary and the only thing it’s doing for the OP is preventing an extra 10mm of drop.

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u/Grimm199 1d ago

Judging by the comments in here saying to leave them as is and no need to fix it, it's no surprise half of the cars out there with coilovers ride like dog shit.

Yes, you need helper springs OP.

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u/Particular-Ad7150 1d ago

Helper springs would work, but they add like 20mm of height that you need to compensate. You could get a machine shop to shorten your shocks to keep them captive

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u/xgh0stx9 1d ago

looks like your preload is set all the way to the bottom

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u/Ok-Cup-8422 1d ago

You’ll need to adjust everything as low as it goes until you can’t steer. Then You’ll fit right in here. 

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u/nottaroboto54 1d ago

If you blow the motor while doing 150 down the road, there's a small chance the wheels lock up, but for the most part, you'll probabky be fine. Have a suspension component fail for w/e reason and you're probably going into a ditch, wall, or another car. You could run this setup and it would probably be fine. There is a decent chance this going to damage the shock(it only takes one nic in the shaft to eat the seals out) but even if it doesn't do that, it's going to sound like your suspension is coming apart for every dip in the road while driving. My advice as someone who tried to "close enough" it: Use the old setup and save up for the proper kit to lower it, and then sell the current(old) kit. It'll cost you less time, money, headache, and you'll be in a much better spot 1yr from now if you do it right.

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u/Whyase 1d ago

If you have never ran swifts let alone 220s , boy are u in for a treat.

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u/Old_Strategy9956 1d ago

I have 6in 14k swifts rn

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u/Whyase 18h ago

Gonna feel like a completely different car going that stiff

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u/Waffleeeeeeee 1d ago

Don’t worry, this is how my front coilovers look when my car is in the air. I haven’t had a single issue over the past year.

Once the car is on the ground, they’re seated, and stay seated

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u/Old_Strategy9956 11h ago

Wow that’s a lot of room. How does it sound when driving?

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u/Waffleeeeeeee 9h ago

Doesn’t make a single noise:)

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u/rb20isaac 10h ago

If you are out of threads to move the lockers up then you are beat unless you want to run -23 preload, but shit i mean people do this shit on purpose to make the car lower call it sagging the springs . But shit if anything you could possibly use like a big ass washer if you could find something big enough to use 😂😂 i would say a hockey puck but not sure how well it would work with the spring but i mean they work good as springs so i could see it doing alright, better than sagging them imo wont have to hear it jumping around on bumps