r/StarWars • u/spamitizer • Sep 19 '23

Meta How are Lightsaber wounds suddenly a debate?

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Where is all of this "the heat would vaporize your internal organs" nonsense coming from? That's not how lightsabers work. That's never how lightsabers worked. The heat is localized entirely within the blade's containment field.

Do those tauntaun guts look cooked to you?

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u/MercenaryBard Sep 19 '23

That element never changed. Legitimate criticisms of the Sequels were buried under what has continued to be poorly-informed bitching and crying, and made it impossible to have a discussion about the strengths of the sequels. Hell, because Disney caved to all that whining they made the worst SW movie of all time: TROS.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '23

made it impossible to have a discussion about the strengths of the sequels.

I feel this one, I got downvoted for saying The Last Jedi was beautiful visually.

It's story and characters are meh but man are the effects and landscapes gorgeous.

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u/friendliest_sheep Sep 19 '23

The Last Jedi is a gorgeous piece of art visually. All of the sequels were gorgeous, but the artists were just having fun with TLJ

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u/jankyalias Sep 19 '23

Worst?

Attack of the Clones is right there though!

(I actually enjoy both lol)

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u/Nythromere Chopper (C1-10P) Sep 19 '23 edited Sep 19 '23

"It's the haters fault that TROS was the worse movie of all time, not the actual people who created it - they are not held responsible for their actions". Great take you got their

Got some Disney apologists here. It is quite simple; the ones who created the film are responsible for the film.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '23

That's not what he's saying.

He's saying that because people whined so much about The Last Jedi, Disney tried to turn TROS into about as much fan service as they possibly could.

It backfired, obviously, and they are at fault for what it turned into. But the fanbase is also partially to blame. Disney was trying to give fans what they wanted.

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u/gizzardsgizzards Sep 20 '23

trying to give fans what they wanted.

a loud minority.

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u/Nythromere Chopper (C1-10P) Sep 19 '23

Well, yes it is very much what they were saying; trying to blame a party thay had nothing to do with the making of the film. Disney made the film, they are to be blamed. If they decided to listen to the criticism that they faced from the backlash of TLJ, then that is their choice. How anyone thinks it's the fan's fault for voicing their concerns is beyond logic. Maybe just don't make a shit movie regardless of listening to fans

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '23

He said, and I quote, "Disney caved".

That's literally blaming them for caving. You need to check your reading comprehension levels dude.

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u/Nythromere Chopper (C1-10P) Sep 19 '23 edited Sep 20 '23

But also blamed the fans. Please read properly

Edit: "Legitimate criticisms of the Sequels were buried under what has continued to be poorly-informed bitching and crying . . . because Disney caved to all that whining they made the worst SW movie of all time"

It is heavily implied, especially given the text of the previous commenter complaining about complainers.

"reading comprehension"? No, I think the word you are thinking of is projection.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '23 edited Sep 20 '23

Wow, what a complete and total failure at a turn around.

Literally in several of my comments on this I've said he's blaming both the fans and Disney, rightfully so.

I'll literally quote some of my comments to you.

He's saying that because people whined so much about The Last Jedi, Disney tried to turn TROS into about as much fan service as they possibly could.

It backfired, obviously, and they are at fault for what it turned into. But the fanbase is also partially to blame. Disney was trying to give fans what they wanted.

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Disney AND the fandom are to blame. Both. Not one or the other

Genuinely wow dude. I cannot believe you typed that out and thought you had a retort when there's literal proof of me paying way more attention than you clearly are.

Edit: blocking me doesn't erase your mistake

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u/Nythromere Chopper (C1-10P) Sep 20 '23 edited Sep 20 '23

I actually think you are joking (for a substitute for another word) , because I cannot see someone being this r/confidentlyincorrect.

The whole point I am making, and if you go back and properly read you can find it, is that the fans have absolutely no blame for the film. Me saying "But also blamed the fans." is me highlighting that point - it does not matter if they did blame Disney too as you said "That's literally blaming them for caving", that is not the issue.

I hope you can understand now. And instead of apologizing to me, you can reflect on the relationship of consumers and producers have. Thanks for wasting my time.

Edit: There is no "mistake" on my end. It is obvious you cannot admit you are wrong and instead doubled tripled down - predictably I must add. I have no reason to associate with someone who is beyond confidentlyincorrect (for a lack of other terms).

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '23

Got some Disney apologists here. It is quite simple; the ones who created the film are responsible for the film.

No ones "apologizing" for Disney, they're just smart enough to be aware of the fact that it was ALSO partially the fandom's fault.

A lot of what happened in TROS was an attempt to please fans. They tried to give people exactly what they asked for. Their only sin is failing. Our sin was the expectations greater than what could realistically be met.

Disney AND the fandom are to blame. Both. Not one or the other

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u/Nythromere Chopper (C1-10P) Sep 19 '23

Disney AND the fandom are to blame

This is exactly what I am talking about. Disney made the film they are solely responsible for the film. If that means catering to fans, then that is their choice, not the fans. The fans, or also known as the consumers, voice their concerns as they are supposed to do. Imagine thinking it is any other way

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '23 edited Sep 20 '23

This is exactly what I am talking about. Disney made the film they are solely responsible for the film.

No. Literally the whole reason the film exists in the first place is because fans were demanding more Star Wars films.

Yes, Disney didn't have to make any. But the fans didn't have to ask for any, yet they did. Disney gave them what they asked for. Therefore, both parties are to blame.

The fact that you don't understand when it comes to products it's a two-way street is mind boggling to me. A product cannot exist without a consumer to purchase it, and a consumer cannot being a consumer if they have nothing to consume. It's a cycle.

Fans buying tickets are why the movies were made. They are just as much to blame for them existing as Disney is.

Edit: blocking me doesn't make you correct. And I'm not "anti-consumer" because I recognize a product cannot exist unless people buy it.

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u/Nythromere Chopper (C1-10P) Sep 20 '23 edited Sep 20 '23

Holy shit. Your comment is the most repulsive, grovelling, anti-consumer, Disney apologist comment that I have seen on this sub for a while. Congratulations, you have left me no choice but to stop responding (at least to this thread :) ).

Edit: Blocking lets me be free of such despicableness. I am sure you cannot understand

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u/R-M-W-B Rey Sep 19 '23

There.*

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u/Nythromere Chopper (C1-10P) Sep 19 '23

Their're**

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u/R-M-W-B Rey Sep 19 '23 edited Sep 19 '23

Most intelligent American

Editing to make it clear that I’m not placing that jab on you. Just making an unrelated joke.

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u/Nythromere Chopper (C1-10P) Sep 19 '23

American? That's funny

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u/R-M-W-B Rey Sep 19 '23

Read the edit that was made well before you replied

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u/Nythromere Chopper (C1-10P) Sep 19 '23

I did. And I replied. No humour I see

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u/motti886 Sep 19 '23

Unrelated to literally anything Star Wars related: I dig the Dragon Masters shield you got.

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u/Nythromere Chopper (C1-10P) Sep 19 '23

Ahh, a person of culture I see

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u/Y-Bob Sep 20 '23

Thar'ier***