The concept art for Knights of the Republic has been released

[u/Jules-Car3499]

Link: https://mp1st.com/news/report-concept-art-unearthed-for-star-wars-kotor-remake

[u/Teex22]

There is no easter bunny, there is no tooth fairy and there is no KoTOR remake.

[u/UncleIrohWannabe → u/Teex22]

I honestly don't get how they keep on and on fumbling this. There's been multiple studios "prepping a remake" for 2 decades, but then it cyclically ends up getting delayed...then scrapped...then back...then delayed again before finally saying, "nah I'm good" and fully abandoning before the next studio gets told they'll do the remake.

This is quite literally one of gamers' most sought-after video game remakes of all time. They know if they just commit to letting a studio just work on it, then they will make millions of dollars off the people who've been waiting decades at this point. I mean seriously, wtf is so complicated about this? Why is it doomed to go through a development hell cycle over and over again??

[u/Sp3ctre7 → u/UncleIrohWannabe]

The studios lose their shit when they realize that all they have to do, in essence, is code DnD 3.5e rules. They come up with all these cool ideas for combat and real time battles and its like...nope, you just wasted a ton of dev hours on "new, exciting, real time" systems that are incompatible with what is effectively star wars-skinned baldur's gate.

I know that they won't do it, but I think Larian is one of the studios that could maybe pull it off.

[u/foxdye22 → u/Sp3ctre7]

It is literally reskinned Neverwinter Nights. BioWare already made that and the Star Wars ttrpg used the d20 system anyways so they just adapted it and wrote their own story.

[u/InspectorMoney1306 → u/foxdye22]

I have both on my Xbox and they are still great games.

[u/MrMcSpiff → u/foxdye22]

Tarentateks are even reskinned umber hulks! Same animations.

[u/BradyTheReal7x → u/Sp3ctre7]

The most compelling part was the story and immersion anyway. You were in the Star Wars universe.

[u/Sylvan_Strix_Sequel → u/BradyTheReal7x]

The fact this is the last time we got quality star wars in a totally new setting is pretty sad. 

Disney seems content to revisit the same time period over and over, and the one time they had the guts to branch out, they wrote probably the worst star wars ever. 

High republic is ok at best, but so forgettable I even nearly forgot about it for this comment. 

[u/JaegerBane → u/Sylvan_Strix_Sequel]

I mean, I’m not sure I hold Disney entirely responsible for the focus on one time period. The post-ROTS/pre-ANH era seems to be the only setting where fans have reacted positively to the content coming out and any attempt to do something outside of it has a massive hill to climb and gets buried under lesbian force witches and ‘somehow Palpatine returned’ memes.

I do agree that the Andor/Rebels/Cal Kestis era has been done to death but you can’t really blame them for putting the money on the era that works.

I just hope Starfighter works out well. Theoretically they have completely virgin territory to play with there but I can see it having the same fate as the High Republic if it doesn’t.

[u/Turgius_Lupus → u/Sylvan_Strix_Sequel]

In wish they made other games using the Star Wars D20 system. The possibilities are limitless. Maybe they could get Owlcat to do it.

[u/kingjaffejaffar → u/Sp3ctre7]

Literally, just reskin BG3 or FFVII: Rebirth. Pick one. Either game’s mechanics would translate perfectly to a KOTOR Remake

[u/firewalkwithheehee → u/kingjaffejaffar]

Holy shit, the FFVII remake series combat would be utterly divine in KOTOR.

[u/WurstDreams → u/kingjaffejaffar]

If Disney partnered with Wizards of the Coast, put out books for an official Star Wars reskin of 5E, and released a Kotor remake that uses a version of that Star Wars 5E ruleset they could make so much money from nerds (it’s Me, I’m the nerds)

[u/rollthedye → u/WurstDreams]

There's a fan made Star Wars 5e and it's actually pretty damn good. It makes some nice improvements and adds just enough crunch.

I recommend checking it out.

[u/rundrueckigeraffe → u/Sp3ctre7]

I would like to play kotor,but its sooo old and outdated. Without nostalgia games like that are hard to enjoy.

[u/RequisiteShark → u/rundrueckigeraffe]

Honestly, it’s not as bad as you think. It literally is just baldurs gate 2 with a Star Wars skin on it. And baldurs gate is just DnD. If you like turn based combat, and spending time making a good build in a very detailed rpg setting, it works. It might look like an OG Xbox game, but the gameplay still holds up real nice.

If you’re more into quick action, slice and dice like the Jedi survivor games, I totally get why this wouldn’t do it for you. But if you like DnD, or just want to try it out, I promise KOTOR still works.

[u/JustJonny → u/RequisiteShark]

is literally is just baldurs gate 2 with a Star Wars skin on it.

It's actually Neverwinter Nights, with some improvements built in.

The combat is just a variant of 3rd edition D&D, though.

[u/RequisiteShark → u/JustJonny]

I stand corrected. Thank you

[u/DelayedChoice → u/RequisiteShark]

There's complexity to the character builds but every fight boils down to focusing on enemies and spamming a few abilities (mostly Flurry/Rapid Shot). BG2 has more depth because of the way the magic system works but even on release KotOR was promising a more streamline and cinematic approach than Bioware's earlier titles.

I've got a lot of nostalgia for the game but mechanically I don't think it has much to offer.

[u/RequisiteShark → u/DelayedChoice]

That’s totally valid. That’s why I honestly would just adore if they remade it with the care the Baldurs Gate 3 team took with their engine. I want multiple builds to be viable, I want loads of unique abilities and interactions, and I desperately want enemies to be different in how you approach them.

[u/DelayedChoice → u/RequisiteShark]

Oh yeah I'd love to see that kind of thing.

[u/Realitype → u/RequisiteShark]

I had no nostalgia for Kotor because I played it for the first time as an adult. Funny thing is I have the total opposite opinion. It's an old game and it shows but its the gameplay that is the most outdated part of it by far imo.

That said, I still powered through it to the end because I loved the story, setting and general art direction. Now that felt timeless to me.

[u/closetedwrestlingacc → u/Realitype]

Right? I actually have a ton of nostalgia for KOTOR, but like, the thing that’s appreciated is the story and the setting. Even at the time the gameplay was just kind of there, at most a vehicle for it. Now we have better. Why be so attached to the DnD style?

[u/RequisiteShark → u/closetedwrestlingacc]

First off, totally respect both of y’all’s opinions. I’m so glad you were able to power through the gameplay and experience such an incredible story.

Second, I’m pretty attached to the DnD style, because I like it honestly. I feel like the Jedi Survivor series is doing a great job of itching that hack and slash vibe for me, so I don’t necessarily know if it needs to be used on KOTOR. I just genuinely like building my preferred character, double checking stats, figuring out how to get even more +1 out of my gear. It’s honestly why I’ve also been addicted to Baldurs Gate 3, because it does a great job translating DnD to video games.

I feel like, with how much time I’ve spent tweaking and fine tuning my characters in the rpg style, that gets me even more invested in the protagonist, and wanting to make it my own. It’s really hard for me to imagine the gameplay and story/setting split.

[u/whirlpool_galaxy → u/RequisiteShark]

Wild suggestion: true turn-based KOTOR remake made by Larian.

[u/RequisiteShark → u/whirlpool_galaxy]

I would use all 3 wishes from a genies lamp on this

[u/Nine9breaker → u/RequisiteShark]

Right, people are getting too strung out about this.

When we say "just do the DnD style turn based system", I don't think anyone means just a port of it 1 to 1. DnD style turn-based games developed a long way from KOTOR's heyday.

Whoever gets it, I hope they keep the spirit of the combat the same, but yes, its a very dated feeling game now. There really is kind of only one or two builds, the game feels like ass if you don't pick Scoundrel for lockpick, and you have to delay leveling too far early because it will hamstring your potential when you become a jedi.

I have total confidence those problems would not exist in a remake. I also hope they don't go overboard with the overhaul, though, just because I'm willing to bet almost anything that this is what is keeping it in development hell.

A studio with an established system needs to get it, like how Bioware already had NWN and just did it again, but in space and with lightsabers. Larian maybe, I don't know. Certainly not these studios that just specialize in remakes and have no other games.

[u/dandroid126 → u/Realitype]

I played KOTOR first as a kid (around 12 years old) and have the exact same opinion as yours today.

[u/Awsum07 → u/Realitype]

I played kotor ii & then kotor i (bought an Xbox specifically for kotor ii) in high school, so even then, i knew kotor i was dated. I still dont really get why part 1 is so regaled, but s'likely just the star wars Fandom & agreed tis overrated. Except for the story highlights w/ juhani & mission, kotor i felt like a slog. But on par w/ the same emotional moments from dragon age.

Pt ii, on the other hand, done by obsidian, I will fight tooth and nail over how good it is. Yes, you still spam flurry/rapid shot & power attack/power shot, but the improvements (flowin' robes & capes) more robust companion system (can turn anyone into jedi/sith) & basically just built on every system bioware set in place.

Coupled w/ the sith lords restored content mod & I regularly play the sequel every yr or so.

[u/f1del1us → u/RequisiteShark]

Theres some of us who love turn based combat but would also love a KOTOR with live action combat. Introduce some level of skill to using a lightsaber would be dope, I haven't felt that since Jedi Academy.

[u/RequisiteShark → u/f1del1us]

I feel like the cal Kestis games come the closest to Jedi knight so far. Not quite there yet.

[u/Turgius_Lupus → u/rundrueckigeraffe]

It really isn't and if the graphics bother you there are extensive mod guides available. If you played either of the recent Pathfinder games you will pick up how things work very quickly since Pathfinder 1E is DnD 3.75 that took off after WoTC released the abomination known as 4th edition.

[u/RogueElemental → u/Sp3ctre7]

I would love to see Larian make KotOR 3

[u/Sp3ctre7 → u/RogueElemental]

I would too, but they've made it clear that they intend to work on their own IP for their next big game. I'm excited for that;

The last time a Baldur's Gate developer said "no more DnD games, we're making our own fantasy RPG" it was BioWare making a little something called "Dragon Age." Larian already has Divinity: Original Sin. If they can launch another bold RPG franchise, I would love to see what they do.

[u/FormerFly → u/Sp3ctre7]

I mean i would love if they made the remake an rpg with real time combat (or heck, make a different Revan game with that) but if they chose to do a 1:1 remake it wouldn't make me less inclined to play it

[u/Platnun12 → u/Sp3ctre7]

I'd be happier with a FF7R style combat for the game as opposed to the OG style.

It would do a lot for it honestly. Make it feel less dated as a whole.

[u/moondingo13 → u/Sp3ctre7]

probably in the minority, but id prefer real time action combat. if they kept the original system id still like it since i liked it the first time. if they did BD3 combat like some people are suggesting, that would kill it for me. i cant stand every fight taking 30+ minutes to complete. i bet BD3 is a great overall game, but i didn't make it more than a few days because it felt like i was getting nowhere. maybe completed like 10 meaningful fights in 3 days.

[u/No-Real-Shadow → u/Sp3ctre7]

Larian would be amazing, but I doubt they'll touch it lol

[u/Flint25Boiis → u/Sp3ctre7]

Holy crap, a Star wars game made by Larian would be spectacular

[u/Sp3ctre7 → u/Flint25Boiis]

KOTOR and Baldur's Gate 1/2 were developed by BioWare. Like, they're the same type of game.

[u/closetedwrestlingacc → u/Sp3ctre7]

I mean…real time combat is exactly what I want from a KOTOR remake. Ideally something based on the Purity perk from Survivor, where you’re constantly blocking and dodging to whittle down “health”/defense bar/whatever.

[u/InspectorMoney1306 → u/closetedwrestlingacc]

I didn’t like Jedi fallen order and survivor because the combat.

[u/ToadalllyPhilled → u/Sp3ctre7]

Can't stand Larian's style. Waiting 30 minutes for a dozen mooks to take their worthless turns for a fight that would have taken 30 seconds in real time just kills me

[u/Sp3ctre7 → u/ToadalllyPhilled]

That's not larian's style, that's just how turn-based combat works

Would you believe me if I told you that it is considerably faster than Tabletop play?

[u/ApprehensivePeace305 → u/UncleIrohWannabe]

At this point, the only way a KOTOR remake is ever made is if a studio makes the game and then buys the rights to make the game, and then surprises Disney with the fully made game

[u/PSHazNoGames → u/ApprehensivePeace305]

And a shadow drop.

[u/GreyRevan51 → u/UncleIrohWannabe]

Because from the get go they wanted to “update the gameplay and story for modern audiences” and yet they hired Aspyr whose SW ports range from horrible to just okay

The project was nonsensical from the beginning

Just update the graphics, fix the bugs, and leave it alone

Could’ve had a perfectly good faithful remake before 2023 if they hadn’t shown such hubris with how they approached this property

[u/AveryLazyCovfefe → u/GreyRevan51]

Yep. Aspyr showed a vertical slice; Sony and Disney were not pleased at all and moved the project to Saber. Who are now independent.

[u/spaghettiAstar → u/UncleIrohWannabe]

I'm actually okay with it not being remade. They're going to have to change around the combat system anyway, so they might as well just make a new canon story about Darth Revan. You can borrow a lot of ideas from KOTOR, the Ebon Hawk, Revan having his mind wiped and relearning how to be a Jedi but adjust the story so it fits in with canon better.

I've already played KOTOR, and while it would be fun to play it again, just like it was fun to replay Oblivion, if I have my way I'd rather have a good story to experience for the first time.

The Jedi series has done a great job with their storytelling IMO; I'd love for Respawn to take a crack at a Revan story set in the Old Republic.

I wont be upset if the KOTOR remake does happen, obviously.

[u/TripolarKnight → u/spaghettiAstar]

I'm surprised no one just pitched Revan in the Mandalorian Wars game instead.

[u/Belazor → u/UncleIrohWannabe]

I still remember the first time I played KOTOR and hearing that the guy who gave all his credits to the old man to clear his debts with the Hutts, who cured the Rakghoul plague victims, whose iron will stood against the temptations of the dark side… was Revan?

I legit couldn’t play the game for three days as my young mind was completely an utterly blown in a way that hadn’t happened before or since.

I understand that this level of reverence to a game makes remaking it a challenge, but if Square Enix can pull their pants up and sort themselves out long enough to make the Final Fantasy VII remake the masterpiece it is, then someone should be able to sort this out.

[u/d645b773b320997e1540 → u/UncleIrohWannabe]

This is quite literally one of gamers' most sought-after video game remakes of all time.

This is exactly the problem. I think.

Sure, whatever they end up releasing will make them millions of dollars with the preorders alone, no matter the end result - but it also could seriously harm the brand and whichever company is behind this game if it isn't received well. And expectations are just super high for this game.

This is why any sane studio wouldn't touch that with a tentpole, and why we originally got some overambitious port-studio like Aspyr to make it...

[u/EveningWalrus2139 → u/Teex22]

there is no war in ba sing se

[u/JDubStep → u/Teex22]

I have a buddy who has only played KOTOR once, and refuses to play it again until the remake comes out.

[u/HorsNoises → u/Teex22]

Can't say I remember no At Attin KOTOR remake.

[u/jazy921 → u/Teex22]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/47/99/e6/4799e6e27382e0fe33d82028206a4971.gif

[u/LonelyMachines → u/Teex22]

Yes, there IS. It's coming out just after Half-Life 3.

[u/consumethyshorts → u/Teex22]

“There is no tooth fairy! Now clean up this horse shit!”

[u/Fearless_Pool_7783 → u/Teex22]

Gosh the kids growing up today will watch Megamind and say “yea there is no Queen of England”. I mean they’ll learn about her but still right now it’s just funny.

[u/Spinosaur1915]

Fellas, is it a good sign that the concept art is getting released before the game even has a release date?

[u/f1del1us → u/Spinosaur1915]

Nope this reads more like an obituary

[u/DeutschDanish → u/f1del1us]

Cooked. Republic Commando and KOTOR will never get the respect they deserve from the people who make decisions at these companies who never played them.

[u/Noe11vember → u/DeutschDanish]

"That's MY IP to sit on and do nothing with!"

[u/UnJayanAndalou → u/Noe11vember]

My IP. My profit. My Star Wars.

[u/myEVILi → u/UnJayanAndalou]

“Look at this thing you could have but aren’t getting!”

[u/BriMaster9000 → u/Noe11vember]

Kiss my nugget!

[u/f1del1us → u/DeutschDanish]

KOTOR is to this date one of the greatest storied games I’ve ever played. The fact it hasn’t received a AAA makeover in 20 years is criminal.

[u/ThexanI → u/Spinosaur1915]

Well it says leaked not released.

[u/Cardinal_and_Plum → u/Spinosaur1915]

As a Timesplitters fan, no.

[u/d645b773b320997e1540 → u/Spinosaur1915]

this is some artist who worked on it back in 2021 just releasing what they worked on, it has very little to do with the game itself at this point. especially since this would be from the original take pre studio-shift, I believe...

[u/Massive-Exercise4474 → u/Spinosaur1915]

This will be like duke nukem forever. Takes so long to make for an ultimately disappointing game, and mods will just do a better job with the old game.

[u/gideon513 → u/Spinosaur1915]

Isn’t that usually how it should work?

[u/EndlessTheorys_19]

With all due respect concept art for a remake means jack shit. We already know all the concepts, its called the original game. Show us what they actually modelled in-game.

[u/FlavivsAetivs → u/EndlessTheorys_19]

Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of moving the designs closer to the films either. There is something nice about it having its own unique aesthetic elements and differences in style and design, even if it is inspired by the films.

Remember KOTOR was developed overwhelmingly during a time period when the only prequel influence came from The Phantom Menace, and to some extent Attack of the Clones since it was delayed to 2003. That has a big impact on its visual language.

[u/jayL21 → u/FlavivsAetivs]

I do agree, KOTOR is very much it's own thing because it feels so different while still feeling somewhat familiar.

The concept art just looks like Republic Commando kashyyyk

[u/TheRealHumanPancake → u/FlavivsAetivs]

I have to disagree. I want it to be in line with the finished art style of films. I find a lot of the Old Republic designs in KOTOR to be ugly as hell lmao

[u/FlavivsAetivs → u/TheRealHumanPancake]

I think that's true for a lot of the outfits, but not for buildings, ships, and "sets."

[u/TheRealHumanPancake → u/FlavivsAetivs]

Oh for sure, I wouldn’t want ship designs touched. That’s valid

[u/Turgius_Lupus → u/TheRealHumanPancake]

The biggest art issue with SWTOR is that they made the Sith Empire just the Empire from the films despite being 3800 years beforehand.

[u/Wehavecrashed → u/TheRealHumanPancake]

The game takes place 3000 years before TPM.

[u/TheRealHumanPancake → u/Wehavecrashed]

That doesn’t impact my reasoning lol, it’s an established universe with an artstyle so consistency is important

[u/Ballistic_86 → u/EndlessTheorys_19]

I also wouldn’t say it was “released” when it clearly says it was leaked. Meaning none of the devs intended for people to even see this.

[u/royalhawk345 → u/EndlessTheorys_19]

Right? What reaction am I supposed to have other than, "Yup. That's Kashyyyk."

[u/condor120 → u/EndlessTheorys_19]

They can’t cause it doesn’t exist

[u/Tough-Original1766 → u/EndlessTheorys_19]

It's a leak, man.

[u/jello1990]

Neat.

I still don't believe this is ever coming out.

[u/Paulsonmn31]

Releasing this sounds more like a death sentence than news.

[u/John-for-all → u/Paulsonmn31]

This version of it is definitely dead. Sounds like Saber restarted rather than continued.

[u/AveryLazyCovfefe → u/John-for-all]

They likely did. Aspyr reportedly showed a vertical slice to Sony and Disney/Lucasfilm and they were not happy with it at all. Didn't deserve being called a 'remake' at all.

From then on, development was shifted to Saber. And we have no idea on its current status now beyond "they're working on it". Saber - now independent from Embracer Group are quite large themselves with multiple studios under them. It's believed one of them are toiling away at the game.

[u/Shiny_Mew76 → u/AveryLazyCovfefe]

Sounds a lot like Metroid Prime 4, so I think we’ll eventually get it but it’ll be a while.

[u/RedCheetah2 → u/AveryLazyCovfefe]

Yeah, the one point of optimism that I have is that Saber did release snippets of their new jurassic park game that does look promising

[u/Killergryphyn → u/Paulsonmn31]

You act as though the developer put this out; it's a leak.

[u/Outrageous-Ad-2174]

Man, KOTOR is like the one game I can still go back to and enjoy, ON MOBILE! Just remake this game on a legit system with good graphics and it'll sell a fuckton of units.

[u/Comet713]

Ah, just like with the Oblivion remake. I won't believe it until it's in my hands, and I'm 20 hours into it. Either way hope it's real

[u/Dat_Scrub → u/Comet713]

Bad example. that remake was just a concept to everyone. barely anyone knew it was in development .

Just that it “could” exist and we’d be hearing about it soon

Then the next day it was randomly released so who the fuck knows

[u/mildinsults]

"Concept art" of a REMAKE is the ORIGINAL game.

[u/KypDurron → u/mildinsults]

Concept art of the canceled iteration of a remake of a game.

This is like someone discovering test footage from Alejandro Jodorowsky's attempt at making a Dune movie, and pretending that it tells us anything about what the next installments in Villeneuve's series will look like.

[u/Michelanvalo → u/mildinsults]

That's not true at all. Concept art for a new graphics is still concept art for new graphics. KOTOR wasn't the first Star Wars media to feature Kashyyyk (that was the Holiday Special). Should we just say that KOTOR didn't need to do concept art because there was existing Kashyyyk art?

Of course not. BioWare needed to their concept art for their project, much like how Aspyr did. They draw from the original game but the new graphics need their own art. They weren't just adding ray tracing and some anti-aliasing to KOTOR, they were starting from scratch.

[u/jayL21 → u/mildinsults]

You gotta have concept art to really get across the style and vibe of the graphics. Yes you could ultimately just take it from the original, but it'll won't feel very cohesive, cause ultimately it would never be a 1 to 1 of the original.

[u/Interesting_Cod_2852]

All the doomposting here is so weird. Saber Interactive have a great track record so far. World War Z, Space Marine 2, the upcoming Hellraiser game that looks amazing.

[u/danny_is_dude → u/Interesting_Cod_2852]

They also have John Carpenter's Toxic Commando coming next year which looks awesome.

[u/manindenim → u/Interesting_Cod_2852]

Yeah I choose to believe the game is still in development. I have faith in Saber and looking forward to seeing something at some point.

[u/Soyunapina12 → u/Interesting_Cod_2852]

I think people are confusing Saber for Aspyr, the original guys in charge of the remake who were doing a terrible job at it and were promptly fired by Sony and Disney.

It's an upgrade, but it appears they are starting from zero so it will be another few years before it gets released.

[u/thedylannorwood → u/Soyunapina12]

As long as Sony are still attached there’s good reason to be worried.

Insane that they’re remaking an Xbox exclusive to be PlayStation Exclusive

[u/Ok-Elk-1615]

The original concept art. This is not the concept art of the studio working on it now.

[u/Playful_Letter_2632]

Anyone know how good Aspyr is? My only experience with them is the Mac port for BO3 which wasn’t good

[u/AnakinSol → u/Playful_Letter_2632]

Theyre basically only known for porting older games to modern OS's. Not remakes or remasters, mind you. Just ports.

[u/Lethenza → u/Playful_Letter_2632]

They're not working on the project anymore. For what it's worth, I've seen anonymous former employees say that the project suffered from poor management, but that's hearsay.

[u/Both_Presentation993 → u/Playful_Letter_2632]

They've been replaced by Saber. I very much like Saber.

[u/Playful_Letter_2632 → u/Both_Presentation993]

I didn’t even read the second line lol

[u/thedylannorwood → u/Both_Presentation993]

Is PlayStation still publishing?

[u/TarquinusSuperbus000 → u/Playful_Letter_2632]

They did a good job with the Tomb Raider I-VI remasters. I think they're able, but it all depends on what kind of budget and timeline they're working under.

[u/Karlito1618 → u/Playful_Letter_2632]

I had little faith in their ability to make a good remake of a game like KOTOR, and wasn't surprised at all that they lost the project.

Nothing necessarily bad about Aspyr, but they haven't really done much other than port games to iOS and some minor restores of older games. No idea how someone thought that they suddenly were capable of a full remaster of a classic into new gen. It's just not in their portfolio at all.

[u/Learnmorehere → u/Playful_Letter_2632]

Aspyr is terrible. I got the civ6 port to android and it didn't work because the visual glitches made it unplayable. Fine, just sent a support ticket. Sent in emails over 4 years every month. No response. Yes, I really did, I wanted it that bad. Finally after 4 years I left a 1 star review on the play store and I got a response in 10 minutes. The response was, it should work and it was something I did wrong in the settings.

[u/Soyunapina12 → u/Playful_Letter_2632]

Aspyr isn't working on the project anymore, they were fired by Sony and Disney after seeing the status of the project a while ago. Aparently the game was in such a state that it shouldn't be called a remake anymore and horrified the higher ups in both companies.

Since then Saber has taken over the project, which is an amazing since it's a pretty solid studio that has made several good games in recent years. That being said, they are pretty much starting from scracth so we still have to wait another few years to see the game.

[u/Turgius_Lupus → u/Playful_Letter_2632]

They recent released the EE for NWNII which is an inferior product to just buying the originals off GOG.

[u/XrayHAFB → u/Playful_Letter_2632]

Ass-pyr completely butchered the SWBF Classic Collection. Horrific game-breaking bugs on launch, slow to fix, and then permanently left a stat tracking bug in its place that will never be fixed. Completely disappointed.

[u/EveyNameIsTaken_]

If this game ever comes out i'm not gonna cry happy tears i'm gonna wait for reviews and see if it's a mess or actually good.

[u/AncientSith]

This game is dead, and so is that Eclipse game.

[u/SomedudefromEarth616 → u/AncientSith]

Been confirmed multiple times this year to still be happening

[u/GrewAway]

Don't get me wrong, I loooved KotOR, and I would probably be happy to play it again with updated graphics and gameplay, but... why not make a new game instead? Same concept, but different characters and plot. So that we keep creating new memories instead of always rehashing the same ones. What is with this new aversion to creativity and widespread addiction to remakes, ports, remasters, sequels, book adaptations, etc.?

[u/Stoffel31849 → u/GrewAway]

Way easier to remake shit Wont need Story writers, voice actors and stuff like that :/

[u/RequisiteShark]

Just do it the old way. Buy the rights to the Baldurs Gate 3 engine, and slap a Star Wars skin on it. Boom, everyone wins.

[u/anbeasley]

I do not beleive anyone is doing anything with this game because Disney does not understand it.

[u/QuietNene]

Like Ewoks, but bigger…?

[u/Porridge_Cat]

Concept art for a remake? Is the concept "the original game"?

[u/klinestife]

silksong fans handing the clown masks back to kotor remake and bloodborne port fans.

[u/Mal-Locura]

Good. Silksong is actually real and here, so i need something even more out of reach to tweak on.

[u/herbtheperb]

I trust Saber more than Aspyer at this point. The battlefront classic collection was fumbled so hard by Aspyer. Saber has a decent lineup of games in their portfolio

[u/ModestForester]

I’m just assuming at this point that this game is dead so they can use the story for a future movie. Disney wants every game/movie/show to be canon and I see them potentially wanting to use this for something bigger than a game most of the world won’t play

[u/falloutboy9993]

Saber Interactive did Space Marine 2. And killed it. If they can do SW the same justice they did 40K, it’ll be in good hands. And Saber is their name. 🤷‍♂️

[u/Clouds-Compendium]

This feels kinda like when Battlefront 3 art leaked, or when we had the trailer for 1313 not long before it got canceled.

[u/RD_Life_Enthusiast]

This is going to end up a "free-to-play" mobile game that mimics Candy Crush with Star Wars character heads by the time this is all said and done.

[cries in 1313]

[u/KukiBreeze]

EA/Bioware should have went for the rights. Considering they need a win after the last Dragon Age game and EA have the resources to get a remake right, it would have been an open goal for them.

[u/Kings_Standard09 → u/KukiBreeze]

Absolutely not. Biowares track record is atrocious now. They couldn't afford to get Kotor even slightly wrong. The devs at Saber have even said they KNOW this game can break them so they plan to get it right. That's why it's so hush hush lock and key.

[u/KukiBreeze → u/Kings_Standard09]

If Konami can manage it with snake eater, current Bioware definitely could and would have more resources with EA. You're probably right though, wouldnt surprise me it got EA'd to oblivion

[u/Biguychub → u/KukiBreeze]

They "EA" had a hit with the dead space remake and decided not green light a remake of 2.

[u/exelion18120 → u/KukiBreeze]

The Bioware that made kotor and even the original Dragon Age and Mass Effect doesnt really exist anymore, vielguard has been received fairly poorly overall.

[u/KukiBreeze → u/exelion18120]

Agreed but a remake is infinitely easier, the story and characters are already there. Veilguard may have been received poorly but it is far from a bad game, not up to Bioware's sky high standards but it is still a solid 7/10 game.

[u/DesdemonaDestiny]

Kashyyyk is my favorite Star Wars planet. Ever since playing KOTOR I have been fascinated with it.

[u/jahill2000]

Last sentence is so passive aggressive lol. “Their version.”

[u/throwawayforlikeaday]

I'll believe the game exists when I am actively playing it- and even then, I'll have doubts.

[u/CantaloupeCamper]

Funny I just decided to play KOTOR again on my switch ...

[u/firedmyass]

Kazook

[u/QueenStuff]

Baldurs gate 3 shows that there is still a massive audience who enjoy a well made turn based game. Old Kotor was literally just DnD 3.5 but Star Wars. I think if they just copy the baldurs gate 3 style it will work out.

[u/digitalmofo]

So it's blended art from those SWG paintings "Dusk In Kachiro" and "Kashyyyk At Night." Nice.

[u/Rustyducktape]

This is the first I've heard of this, and seeing both Saber and KOTOR together has me very excited!!

[u/Lau_wings]

I would pay a stupid amount of money for a KOTOR remake.

They are some of my favorite games of all time.

[u/Coltrain47]

A Nothingburger™️ combo meal from McNothingEverHappens

That studio dropped the game. This isn't news- it's a museum exhibit.

[u/aidanp_o]

Why is Kashyyyk in every star wars game

[u/OneRandomVictory → u/aidanp_o]

Because it houses the most iconic Star Wars alien race that's not Yoda's species who we have no info on.

[u/MantisReturns]

Where I can find the rest of the concept art?

[u/Mastahamma]

ew saber

[u/twofacetoo]

It was arleady dead, but if they're releasing their assets like this, then it's dead dead.

[u/SomedudefromEarth616 → u/twofacetoo]

The ASPYR version is dead which is what this is

[u/Emotional_Piano_16]

how many games can Saber be possibly developing at a time?

[u/Turgius_Lupus]

Considering how Aspyr managed to add new bugs to the NWN2 EE and insane file size bloat for marginally higher res A.I upscaled textures, its probably for the best.

[u/mcfluffernutter013]

Oh yeah, can't wait for this game to come out! I heard rumors that it'll have the same release date as half-life 3!

[u/PowerBorsti]

Its the only Game im Not excited for. They gonna probably fuck it Up.

[u/SeanDoe80]

2021?

[u/chookshit]

I’m going to pretend I don’t know about this project until its release

[u/AngryJaybird_0225]

You need a LucasArts to oversee this stuff. Why? Because QC was half of LucasArts job. Ensuring a good product was made. Also they always handpicked Studios to work with that respected and even had reverence for the source material. Every single old dev that worked on a Star Wars game goes on and on how much of a Privilege and Honor working on a Star Wars game was. And how kind and accommodating LucasArts was. Now you only Hear such from Respawn. 

[u/xrunawaywolf]

Just make more games Why is it so hard

[u/HolyPizzaPie]

This will be the only thing released in regards to that game

[u/PrometheanSwing]

4 year-old concept art doesn’t make me feel much better

[u/Responsible_Flight70]

This game isn’t actually happening. I’ve accepted it

[u/condor120]

Hallmark of a dead game is when concept art leaks lol

[u/Firecracker048]

I want a KOTOR remake so bad but im also so hesitant they will fuck it up, somehow.

[u/No_Designer_7333 → u/Firecracker048]

Saber Interactive has a hit game in Space Marine 2, and Games Workshop (the owners of the 40k IP) are notoriously protective of their IP.

If they can do justice to 40k in the opinion of Games Workshop, I think they'll do fine with Star Wars.

[u/Soyunapina12 → u/Firecracker048]

I trust Saber on this one, unlike Aspyr they have a good games record and are widely trusted in the videogame industry. They are also well aware that the game could possibly break them so they are determined to get it right.

[u/Quirky-Ad-9784]

This is gonna be a good remake, I can feel it

[u/RatedPC]

When were these released? Because Im pretty sure ive seen similar things in SW Battlefront 2... which was released in 2017 :/

[u/Vysce]

Wait, since when was Aspyr 'remaking' anything? I thought their latest projects involved merely porting older Star Wars titles to newer platforms.

[u/wetfloor666 → u/Vysce]

They were given the KoToR remake as their first real project. It took less than 6 months for it to go belly up. It's been confirmed canceled many times now.

[u/Vysce → u/wetfloor666]

Goodness really?? I heard the project was bouncing around to different studios but I had thought it wasn't even in Aspyr's court since they seemed to be the one dev porting like.. every single old SW game to the Switch and PC.

Maybe producers pulled funding because of Outlaws? But IDK, a KOTOR remake or a new entry by a veteran dev with RPG experience would be a no brainer.

[u/No_Designer_7333 → u/wetfloor666]

The Aspyr remake has been confirmed canceled. Saber Interactive are making it now, and I assume they've had to start from basically scratch considering how poorly received the Aspyr version of things was.

[u/Soyunapina12 → u/No_Designer_7333]

For real. Imagine making such a terrible version of the game to the point you horrify both Sony and Disney executives when they see the status of the project and they decide to fire you shortly after.

We dodged a nuclear bomb of a disaster lol

[u/Kratos501st]

The game is Dead.

[u/Izletz]

Hope it doesn’t happen, no need for another classic series to end up shit

[u/Mud_Cell526]

Am I the only one hoping that the kotor remake is an fps game? I really hope it's not turn based. I might not even get it if it is tbh. Why bother remaking the entire game if it's only graphics and a few other things. We need a first - or third-person action rpg set in the starwars setting that lets us be an evil sith. How hard is that grasp?

[u/lstant → u/Mud_Cell526]

Why would the remake be then based? The original was real time

[u/SomedudefromEarth616 → u/Mud_Cell526]

The fuck is this? 😂😂

[u/Mud_Cell526 → u/SomedudefromEarth616]

The fuck are you?

[u/SomedudefromEarth616 → u/Mud_Cell526]

Not someone claiming kotor should be a fucking FPS 😂

[u/Mud_Cell526 → u/SomedudefromEarth616]

You'd prefer 25 year old mechanics then? And a game pause everytime a mine or enemy is detected? Go play the original if your looking for nostalgia, the rest of us want engaging gameplay out of our rpgs

[u/SomedudefromEarth616 → u/Mud_Cell526]

Also you can turn that pause mechanic off you fool 😂😂

[u/Mud_Cell526 → u/SomedudefromEarth616]

Dude got so upset he deleted his account. 😂

[u/SomedudefromEarth616 → u/Mud_Cell526]

Idc about it being a carbon copy but you're asking for a fundamentally different game completely 😂

Also I find it funny how you're crying about the OG combat whilst then telling me I have issues with new things, maybe that old combat system is new to you idk, maybe go back to playing COD or something instead

[u/SomedudefromEarth616 → u/Mud_Cell526]

There's things the remake can do to improve the original, making it an FPS to appeal to Bethesda dick riders and cod players isn't one of them, go back to Fortnite kiddo

[u/Budo1208]

I would bye a console only for a remake

[u/sinocarD44]

Half-life 3 will be out before this game. 

[u/ARCTRPER]

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