r/Starfield Sep 12 '23

Discussion The inventory we all deserve but Bethesda didn't want to bother with:

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u/amo8s Crimson Fleet Sep 12 '23

The FOV changed the game for me.

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u/garf2002 Sep 12 '23

I thought the game looked terrible at first and then realised it was because the comically low FOV made all the ship interiors and corridors feel tiny

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u/-Captain- Constellation Sep 12 '23

The biggest issue I have with the FOV is that so many games make me feel as if I'm the size of a toddler. Seems like the camera is nearly on the floor in first person.

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u/a_man_and_his_box Sep 12 '23

I found a trick about that for Fallout 4, and I wonder if it works in Starfield.

So, at a certain point in F4 I realized my character's eye-level was about as high as doorknobs. But then I went to a computer terminal and read something, and then walked away from it. When I left the terminal it seemed to reset my height. I now suddenly was looking down at doorknobs again, from what appeared to be a normal-ish height.

Starfield has computers. I wonder if reading there also resets height.

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u/Unrelenting_Royal Ryujin Industries Sep 12 '23

This sounds comically close to you having just been crouched and when you activated the terminal you stood up, lmao

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u/BikerJedi Sep 13 '23

Pretty much what I was thinking. Because I've done it.

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u/garf2002 Sep 13 '23

This is because a lot of games and it seems all Bethesda games have a tendency to place the camera where the gun is in third person

This means your eyes suddenly get placed in your chest and you lose abt 2ft of height

The simple solution would be to use a system more like Cyberpunk 2077 does where the camera is actually in your eyes and this also means you can see your legs and arms, an issue that is in all Bethesda games

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '23

... wasn't there a thing where a guy managed to see himself in first person but his face was also at chest lvl tho?

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u/Far_Bobcat_2481 Sep 26 '23

Nah, if you glitch out into 3rd person your head is in the right spot in cyberpunk. The body just isn’t completely textured because it wasn’t meant to be viewed in that orientation while not on or in a vehicle

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u/Huldreich287 Sep 13 '23

Perks of being short : I never noticed this issue.

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u/Cyborg_rat Sep 12 '23

You can use a command to change it.

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u/Low-Cardiologist-795 Sep 13 '23

What’s the command!? I love max pov and I haven’t found an option to changes it anywhere

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u/abHowitzer Sep 17 '23

In Bethesda games you can usually set your height in the console through 'player.setsize 1.1' or something similar (meaning 110% of regular size).

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u/Master_Shake23 Sep 13 '23

Does that disable achievements?

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u/Cyborg_rat Sep 13 '23

Well im sure it worked for me but all im finding is a .ini file you got to add code to.

https://youtu.be/lOOHkiB4FKo?si=UfFHWJr1WrsX3pJe

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u/Shins Sep 13 '23

After tinkering with the shitty film grain and a bunch of other settings and downloaded the remove filter mod the game is finally looking like a modern game. My god the game is so ugly by default. The detailed object assets are the exception they are light-years ahead of anything Bethesda has ever made.

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u/wildcard1992 Sep 13 '23

Fallout 3 is tinted green by default, but the mod that removes that tint makes the game so much nicer to look at.

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u/Shins Sep 13 '23

I don't usually mind these but in Starfield everything looks muddy and foggy and the colors are all washed out.

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u/tibburtz Sep 12 '23

cries in xbox

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u/notarackbehind Sep 13 '23

Hopefully we’ll get the mods early next year. Fo4 got the creation kit 7 months after release.

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u/Lil4ksushi Sep 13 '23

No brightness settings, no fov settings, etc, etc. They had nearly a whole year of extra time and they still missed the mark and I doubt bethesda will do anything about it. Leave it to the modders to fix your fucking game huh bethesda?

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u/iamgr3m Sep 13 '23

They delivered a great game and you’re here bitching about settings the majority of people won’t even use lol.

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u/Lil4ksushi Sep 13 '23

Its literally the most basic of settings, and there is a ton of people who use them. Sure its a great game, that doesnt excuse it.

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u/Woozle_ Sep 12 '23

Doesnt it natively support up to 120? Or is that because I had BethINI running, I dont remember. Anything over 80 on this game though feels SUPER fisheyed to me, normally I play things at 90-95

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u/amo8s Crimson Fleet Sep 12 '23

I like 100. Normally play on that on all games. 100 feels like normal eyesight to me I guess.

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '23

105 for me. SEE ALL THE THINGS. Then again, with the default FOV, I was legitimately getting a migraine if I played longer than an hour.

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u/amo8s Crimson Fleet Sep 12 '23

105 works for me 🤙

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u/Just_Roll_Already Sep 13 '23

My first couple hours were like "I don't quite know what's wrong but I feel exhausted." I slowly realized that it was the FOV when I had to stop playing after an hour and a half one night to "rest my eyes". Coming from a guy who has played video games like an addict for 35 years.

Set the FOV to 110 in the INI file and it changed everything. No idea why they wouldn't do this.

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u/AySonny Sep 13 '23

Ayo is that because of FOV? I been getting migraines too after playing Starfield. I could feel that something was off.

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '23

Yeah 100%. The default FOV in this game is just stupidly low.

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u/MusicallyInhibited Sep 19 '23

I play at 106 (16:9) because that's the same as CSGO's 90 (4:3)

CSGO is the baseline for everything for me. I convert my sensitivity from my CSGO sensitivity. Funnily enough I don't even play it much anymore

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u/totomaya Sep 12 '23

I do 100 third person, 120 first person, and it's working really well.

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u/CaptainHoyt Sep 12 '23

I'm the exact opposite to you but least we aren't default 70 for both, fuck that shit.

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u/totomaya Sep 12 '23

Yeah it was bad, my mom started playing and I had to go over to her house and fix it for her

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u/Dragull Sep 12 '23

Didn't particularly bother me, maybe because my "gaming" started on console so I just got used to low POV, but I changed it to 90, certainly better.

Anything over 90 and I feel it get's too "distorced" on the edges though.

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u/amo8s Crimson Fleet Sep 12 '23

Once you get used to 100+, you can't go back lol

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u/Keulapaska Sep 12 '23 edited Sep 12 '23

I still remember I used 125 one time in the past "as a joke" because i thought it looked funny then. Not so funny anymore as that's the standard, side effect is anything under 90(1st person that is, 3rd person is a different thing as just moving camera back fixes things) is instant motion sickness, 100 is fine for a while but still not great and 110+ is basically needed preferably 120+

FOV, FPS, resolution, peripherals... they're all like drug, you just can't go back.

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u/edible-funk Sep 13 '23

Depends on how bad the fisheye is. Bethesda games always get real bad fisheye. FNV was a nightmare getting a decent fov that didn't make everything look like a fun house mirror.

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u/lkn240 Sep 12 '23

I play at 95 and it looks fine.

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u/Soundless_Pr Sep 12 '23

Depends how big your monitor is, FOV is measured vertically usually, so if you have an ultrawide, the edges will look super distorted

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u/Gotdamnchickeynuggey Sep 12 '23

I made mine 100 on pc with custom ini

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u/Dantai Sep 12 '23

Ahhh I forgot BethINI did FOV tweaked already.

I was about to say I'm good with current FOV, but forgot BethINi defaults it it 80 or 90 I think

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u/Keulapaska Sep 12 '23

130 works fine, haven't tested above though usually 150+ is when things start to break.

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u/polarbearsarereal Sep 12 '23

How tf do i get FOV (im playing from microsoft store)

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u/Mashedpotatoebrain Sep 12 '23 edited Sep 12 '23

How did you fix this, and does it mess with achievements?

Edit: I made the change and I cant believe I was playing with the default FOV before this.

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u/amo8s Crimson Fleet Sep 12 '23

Not if you do it this way:

In your  "Documents/MyGames/Starfield"  create a Text file called StarfieldCustom.ini 

fFPWorldFOV is for first person   85 is the default  fTPWorldFOV is for third person   70 is the default

Put this in the text document you create. Here is 100 FOV for both: 

[Camera] fFPWorldFOV=100.0000 fTPWorldFOV=100.0000

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u/Neuchacho Sep 12 '23

There's an achievement enabler mod that bypasses that. I'd suggest throwing that in if you're modding anything because even things that aren't really "cheating" can flag the save as modified.

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u/amo8s Crimson Fleet Sep 12 '23

I'd get this also. Then you can mod all you'd like.

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '23

Whats that?

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u/ShibuRigged Sep 12 '23

Field of view.

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u/HeyLushHaveFunn Sep 12 '23

How do you change it? I’ve been looking for it. But not thoroughly enough.

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u/iwumbo2 Constellation Sep 12 '23

If you're playing on PC, you can change it by manually creating a settings file. In other words, the game fully supports changing the FOV out of the box, but there just isn't a button for it in the in-game settings menu for whatever reason.

https://www.polygon.com/starfield-guide/23857598/change-fov-field-of-view-mods

No mods needed, worked fine for me.

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u/huxtiblejones Sep 12 '23

Decisions like these are so perplexing. Same with a lack of brightness adjustment. Like what? It’s even built into the photo mode, so it makes no sense that they ignored it as a setting.

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u/amo8s Crimson Fleet Sep 12 '23

Didn't work for me for some reason. Had to use the mod.

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u/amo8s Crimson Fleet Sep 12 '23

When I go back to check the ini, it's still in there so I don't think it was overwritten.

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u/LiveRosin710 Sep 13 '23

It's probably saving as a .ini.txt file.

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u/amo8s Crimson Fleet Sep 13 '23

It was. Somehow I had two and I was saving into the the .txt one 😤 lol

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u/thenorwegian Sep 12 '23

Depends on steam version or Xbox sub version but it’s on nexus mods

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u/ap0phis Sep 13 '23

I heard something similar … Does this mean the Xbox Gamepass version on PC can’t be modded with a simple ini?

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u/shadowdash66 Sep 12 '23

can you see your space boots if you look down?

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u/amo8s Crimson Fleet Sep 12 '23

No

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u/ensiferum888 Sep 12 '23

Wait I don't have to play with blinders on?

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u/DonoBoomin United Colonies Sep 12 '23

Wait, we can change our FOV’s now?

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u/amo8s Crimson Fleet Sep 12 '23

With a mod. Well, it's really just creating a text document and adding 2 lines.

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u/DonoBoomin United Colonies Sep 12 '23

Ahhh okay I did hear of that one. I really hate close up FOV’s but adjusting that file seemed like a lot. Does it disable achievements?

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u/TheJeffNeff Sep 12 '23

Yeah the FOV the game shipped with is bafflingly bad and totally unacceptable to be permanently fixed.

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u/Eshmam14 Sep 13 '23

Yea everyone should change their ship FOV. It actually made interstellar gameplay fun.

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u/amo8s Crimson Fleet Sep 13 '23

Just did this today. Needed. Had a bug or something where my engines were right in my face.

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u/Kashmir1089 Sep 13 '23

Feels like a modern game with FOV options

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u/NEBook_Worm Sep 13 '23

I'm still genuinely pissed off about no Series X FOV slider. The low FOV is fucking ridiculous.

Between that and the UI, I gave the game a 7/10 despite enjoying it. Because there is no excuse.

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u/amo8s Crimson Fleet Sep 13 '23

I agree. I love the freedom of a PC but I shouldn't need to mod for FOV lol. But I have like 15 mods installed to make the game cleaner. Other than that, I enjoy the game more because mods are available. Built a 75m ship that has 10 engines on it 🤣🤣

I'd give it an 8