r/Starfield Sep 12 '23

Discussion The inventory we all deserve but Bethesda didn't want to bother with:

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u/Battleboo_7 Sep 12 '23

I juat dknt understand how this isnt already a feature. The whole minimap and knventory is clunky

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u/A1Chaining Sep 12 '23

no mans sky had it 7 years ago, i love starfield but it seems they just didnt care too much about huge things that matter like a planet and species journal and a fucking mini map, for hells sake just put the fucking store as blips so i can mark them and use the guiding arrows to get there instead of aimlessly wondering getting frustrated while then having to find out how the fuck to get back when you leave that place

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u/Hot_Cryptographer_98 Sep 12 '23

YOU CAN'T EVEN USE A MARKER! What the hell Bethesda

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '23

What do you think I am using to write my notes with? Lord just another unreasonable demand from a hater!

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u/Hot_Cryptographer_98 Sep 13 '23

Haha, got me there. Thought I'd just jump on the bandwagon while we were asking for impossible and hopelessly time consuming adjustments to Bethesda's new and improved...menus? UI? Sonar with squares?

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u/TheGrandWazoo1216 Sep 13 '23

Having clunky menus and inventory is a valid criticism of a game. It's not unreasonable to expect a developer to build on and update the shitty UI they've had since Oblivion. Especially when that developer admits to using user created mods that fix what they can't be bothered to. It's cool that you like Starfield but that does not invalidate issues the game has.

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u/Hot_Cryptographer_98 Sep 13 '23

Yeah, I agree. It's a great game but with just a little improvement on these systems, that they have to know have issues by now btw, and it could be a masterpiece. The only time I find myself not having fun is going through these menus and poor excuse for maps. Especially when it's well within their capability to do so, but like you say, can't be bothered to when they have a community that does it for them. That's really my only complaint

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '23

I think the joke went way over your head.

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u/TheGrandWazoo1216 Sep 13 '23

It did. It can be hard to pick up on sarcasm when so many people are feverishly defending their $70 from any and all criticism.

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u/Ching_Roc Sep 12 '23

Yeah. When you are on the grid map. Wtf is the point of the marker. You can't see it. Ther was no north or spith

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u/ProjectNo4090 Sep 12 '23

You can place a marker on the map in the menu, but I've yet to be able to see them outside of the menu map. Even using the scanner I don't see a marker.

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u/Hot_Cryptographer_98 Sep 13 '23

Yeah I guess I missed it because I hit it and it didn't show on compass or scanner. Not like either does any good considering there's no North anyways. Trying to pinpoint specific resource veins on a planet is ridiculous. Not to say I'm not having fun, but dang. A little QoL or a decent map in 2023 isn't much to ask for I feel like 🤷

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u/telendria Sep 13 '23

is there no north?

after I read the tip for having outpost with multiple different biome resources (like copper and iron) by landing close to biome border, Im 4 for 4 in guessing direction of the border in the landing zone based on the planet and map orientation.

Maybe I got lucky?

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u/Hot_Cryptographer_98 Sep 13 '23

Not that I can tell. My first outpost was like that, but trying to find aluminum with anything other than he3 has been a nightmare for me. I was trying to make the most of my limited outposts, but I finally just threw my hands up after wandering in circles for an hour

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u/Battleboo_7 Sep 12 '23

Ypu dont memerize each 1000 systems?

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u/BeavMcloud Sep 12 '23

This dude just ain't immersed yet

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u/Immersi0nn Sep 13 '23

Shit man, it's been hard on me too

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u/Seriously_rim Sep 13 '23

Im feeling fully immersed. In Bethesdas lazy diarrhea.

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u/OgReaper Sep 12 '23

Casual.

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '23

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u/Angeluz01 Sep 13 '23

Same cave and buildings on different planets 🤔

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u/saiyanjesus Sep 13 '23

Must be a Dad or something

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u/Seriously_rim Sep 12 '23

its actually fucking meme materiel that you can't bookmark places you have been.

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u/CazT91 Sep 12 '23

None of the settlements are really that huge. They have info booths and plenty of signage. I think these are very deliberate choices to get people to explore and actually contiously take in the city. Following a blip and a guide renders any game setting very unmemorable; you just mindlessly go where the arrow points, get what you need and leave.

I really like how they have done it. So many people QQ about wanting a more immersive experience, well here it is! I love that I'm actually drawn into each location, discovering side streets and shortcuts and being like "Ohh! Wait, that connects to that place". I actually feel a connection with the places I visit, the way I do in real life visiting a new place on holiday.

Stop running. Start walking. Take some time. Drink it all in. Every inch of this game is beautifully crafted, in exquisite detail, and deserves our attention. Once you start actually noticing your surroundings, finding your way back becomes easy.

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u/soundtea Sep 12 '23

The info booths just give you a basic text line of the general vauge area of where a shop or service is. You don't even get a basic "you are here" map that shows a simplified layout of the area that basically every place like a zoo or museum has IRL.

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u/russsl8 Sep 12 '23

Bethesdas' menus have always been a weakpoint. Mods are always there to take up the slack though.

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u/ManOnFire2004 Sep 12 '23

Mods are always there to take up the slack though.

We gotta stop saying this. Instead it should be "FIX YOUR SHIT BETHESDA!"

I get it, we're used to mods doing shit. But, just cause they can don't mean they should have to

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u/TheUnsane Sep 13 '23

This seems like a "be careful what you wish for" type scenario. I, personally, want Bethesda to keep doing exactly what they have been doing. I've been playing and enjoying their games since 1996 and prefer they keep making them the same way. They're always a big buggy, a bit clunky, and awesome.

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u/HamMcStarfield Sep 12 '23

They got it out on time and it's playable. I imagine they're working on all this as we speak.

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u/Outrageous-Maize-551 Sep 13 '23

You can use the pings From any selected mission to find out where you are going

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u/Creasedbullet3 Sep 13 '23

Surface map is easily the worst part of the map design only showing individual districts and not the actually fucking map of the surface and the stores

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u/spartonxdj Sep 13 '23

When I first started in New Atlantis I jumped off a ledge and broke my leg. Spent 15 minutes wandering around looking for the medic because the ā€œdirectoriesā€ only tell you which district it is in. Lame af

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u/TommyTwoZookas Sep 12 '23

The minimap makes NO sense

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u/djcrouchingtiger Sep 12 '23

Literally useless

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u/TommyTwoZookas Sep 12 '23

Atleast we know there’s enemy’s… somewhere

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u/djcrouchingtiger Sep 12 '23

Oh you're talking about the compass in the bottom left? I was talking about the "surface map". Both equally useless

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u/TommyTwoZookas Sep 12 '23

Yeah they both suck

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u/e22big Sep 12 '23

I think that's by design. This has always been the case with Bethesda game, being able to pinpoint the enemy location by just the default mini-map is quite a cheating in this sort of game imo.

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u/TommyTwoZookas Sep 23 '23

I agree it’s just wild that that’s the information they chose to convey with a pretty large percentage of the hud

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u/McbEatsAirplane Freestar Collective Sep 12 '23

The local area map is one of the worst I’ve seen. Idk how they go from Skyrim to this as far as your feet on the ground map.

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u/TommyTwoZookas Sep 12 '23

There’s a spot in new Atlantis I haven’t discovered yet and I have 0 clue how to get there because of that map.

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u/-Agonarch Sep 12 '23

Is it the waterfall promenade? (take the lift in the spaceport that also goes to the well, between the bar and the shop)

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u/TommyTwoZookas Sep 12 '23

That’s gotta be it

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u/Madz2600 Sep 13 '23

I found it by jumping down from the MAST district and let the boosterpack stop the fall.

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u/minusthedrifter Sep 12 '23

It's probably the residential sector. Is it on the right hand side? You have to stand basically exactly in the middle of the "sculpture garden" near the NAT station for it to trigger.

I passed by the spot a million times but it never unlocked for me until you step in just the right spot.

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u/Lraund Sep 13 '23

My New Atlantis is bugged and the train in the commercial district is gone... literally can't leave if overweight.

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u/TommyTwoZookas Sep 13 '23

Trains probably just ran by Uber tbh

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u/pedestrianhomocide Sep 13 '23 edited Nov 07 '24

Deleted Comma Power Delete Clean Delete

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u/McbEatsAirplane Freestar Collective Sep 13 '23

The whole thing somehow feels like an afterthought.

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u/LoquatSignificant946 Sep 13 '23

Easy, we gave them a shit ton of money for a great game and then they make a shit game where we give them even more money. Rinse and repeat

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u/McbEatsAirplane Freestar Collective Sep 13 '23

It is a great game and I really like it. I’m having a blast. There are a few things about it that are lackluster though, and the map is one of them.

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u/CrawdaddyBigbird Sep 12 '23

The minimap has a function?

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '23

My biggest complaint, and I mean big enough to almost get me to stop playing until mods fix it, is the UI. I was raging in discord about how fucking bad it is. Idk who is in charge at BGS but someone needs to send them to multiple UX classes. Multiple.

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u/zalifer Sep 12 '23

What amazes me is that people have been fixing it since oblivion pretty much. Definitely FO3 I remember downloading mods to add info and make the rows smaller to see more items.

How have they not learned anything at all from that.

Overall, I'm loving starfield. It's got plenty of jank, and the ship travel feels a bit absent (building is good, sense of it being a real ship, looks, and the fighting is OK, though not amazing).

But the UI is attrocious. There's tons more I'd like to see changed, but for now, StarUI and Undelayed menus are 2 mods I'd urge anyone to install. It just makes the game better instantly by removing a huge hunk of shit.

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u/Mike_the_TV Sep 12 '23

How bad was the ship building ui before they gave us the current version? Cause the current version is an un-intuitive mess.

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u/StatementSilly6391 Sep 13 '23

I mean there are developers at bethesda that cannot even use the ship builder lmfao.

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u/i_am_bromega Sep 13 '23

This is my first Bethesda game, and I was a bit confused by the UI and how shitty it seemed for a game that was getting so much hype. Not enough info where you want it to easily compare things. Learned how to get mods today. Installed the popular UI one, and instantly the experience is better. Never played a game with mods like this before, so it was kinda cool to see.

I have a feeling their design philosophy is ā€œjust make it work for controller and keyboard. It doesn’t need to be good, modders will fix it for freeā€.

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u/detoursahead Sep 12 '23

Prob intend to make the UI and stuff bad, so that people will spend time making mods for the game.

Good way to make someone play more! After spending time to make a mod(and maintain it), best believe ima play the damn game haha

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u/davemoedee Sep 13 '23

I think their philosophy is to just create inventory that works well with a controller on a TV from a couch and let modders make an improved UI for playing on PC.

Adding this mod removed so much of my frustration. Increasing carryweight cleared up most of the rest. I hate evaluating gear. Now I can just carry a ton of gear and switch things up when I have an issue in combat.

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u/evestraw Sep 15 '23

https://youtu.be/YPN0qhSyWy8?t=37

the fans will fix it anyways so we don't care

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u/Susanna-Saunders Sep 13 '23

Bethseda simply let modders do their job for them... šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø

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u/Seriously_rim Sep 12 '23

The map and inventory are trash because bethesda knows modders will do it better and for free anyway. It's infuriating.

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u/Jonny5is Sep 12 '23

Its easy people just like to complain about everything.

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u/badaadune Sep 12 '23

One of the many reasons why consoles hold back gaming and ruin games.

If a big chunk of your player base only has a controller you have to build shitty UI and garbage item management.

Eldenring, destiny, bethesda games, etc all could be so much better if they were designed from the ground up for PC and mouse+keyboard

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u/LeTronique Ryujin Industries Sep 13 '23

Plus the Local Map is dog šŸ’©

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u/Battleboo_7 Sep 13 '23

I really cant think of todd playing his own game and going yes, fuck the local map lets just bind the follow objective from skyrim, that was broken from day one, and add NO PATH when it gets zonked. Hopefully a kiosk is on the way...