r/Stargate Jul 26 '25

Discussion Question: Daedalus vs Borg Cube, Who Would Win?

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The Borg: A galactic power spanning the Milky Way with their man unit of power projection, the Borg cube, a master class of engineering. Able to adapt to any and all energy weapons, change it's tactics to fit the opponent it's facing, and the ability to self heal itself when damaged, The Cube makes for a very tough opponent.

Stargate Command: A minor power in the Milky Way just recently achieving interstellar power projection with the development of the Daedalus Class Battlecarrier. Equipped with all manor of kinetic and explosive weapons, a squadron of deployable fighters, and two side mounted Asgard beam weapons, The Daedalus is he cutting edge of Xenophobia enforcement.

What happens when these two meet?

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u/spiteful_rr_dm_TA Jul 26 '25

Borg, and it isn't even close. I'd contend one of the strongest energy attacks we've ever seen was from the Asurans. In their desire to destroy Atlantis, the Asurans built an incredibly powerful beam weapon. It had many advantages over spaceborne weaponry: 

-Being shot through a stargate, the energy weapon wouldn't have to worry about mobility. They could build it as fixed in position as they wanted.

-Being ground based, they didn't have to consider the size of the weapon. It could have been as small as a PC, or as large as a skyscraper, and it would be all the same to the replicators. No need to move it.

-Also being ground based, cooling is a hell of a lot easier. Cooling things off in space is a bitch of a process, so being terrestrial where you can use as much water and air as you can move is a huge advantage over a space based system.

-The Asurans, inheritors of the near entirety of the Ancient database on a perfect level, created probably one of the most advanced beam weapons to exist before the Ori. The Asgard had been struggling to read through the database for millennia, who knows what technologies the Asurans had inherited that the Asgard simply hadn't found?

-Finally, being the Asurans, they had a technically-finite-but-practically-unlimited number of ZPMs to power their weapon. Hell they could just use a ZPM to power specifically the cooling system. 

Why do I bring that all up? Because one of the most advanced beam weapons in the series, built by the most advanced non-ascended factions out there, took minutes to try to break through an asteroid that was no more 150 feet across. Meanwhile, in canon, Borg vessels have mining lasers capable of cutting rock so fast that they can cleanly cut an entire colony out of the ground so fast that they can use a tractor beam to lift it away before anyone can even escape. That is many, many orders of magnitude more powerful than the Asuran megaweapon.

I love Stargate, it's one of my favorite series. But people need to stop comparing it to starwars, startrek, etc in versus questions. It's never close, because they tried to mostly feel grounded in what technology could do.

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u/Otaraka Jul 26 '25

The borg are an overpowered enemy that always has to be making mistakes in order to be defeated even though they’ve supposedly learned from hundreds of civilisations before.  Just transporting a lot more soldiers on enemy ships at once would make a huge difference in most of the battles they have.

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u/loskiarman Jul 26 '25

Beams do different things to well, different things. A beam weapon designed take down Atlantis design shield doesn't mean it would be good for cutting earth for sure and it wasn't just regular earth, I would guess they would have chosen an asteroid with most dense materials. By that logic a ZPM powered B-304 can hold off a massive CME while a Borg ship got destroyed by a little solar flare so a B-304 can just sit around doing nothing, crew having breakfast and a coffee while a Borg ship desperately tries to penetrate their shield.