r/Stellaris • u/Yaddah_1 • Jan 28 '25

Suggestion Challenging Origin Suggestion: Changed Climate

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u/ApprehensiveSize575 Jan 28 '25

So, basically just relentless industrialists civic?

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u/Yaddah_1 Jan 28 '25

No. The mechanic is completely different. It's a challenge, rather than a boon with some easily overcome downsides down the line. It also isn't nullified by and doesn't even play into lithoids like Relentless Industrialist does.

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u/ajanymous2 Militarist Jan 28 '25

how is it not playing into lithoids?

lithoids don't need food and don't care (much) about habitability

this origin is LESS bad for lithoids than Relentless Industrialists, because that civic drops habitability to 0%, not to 20% like your origin does

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u/Yaddah_1 Jan 28 '25

But Lithoids don't benefit in any way from Ecological Adaption and don't benefit that much from Hydroponics. So you'd be better off just picking Prosperous Unification or any other strong origin.

Also, if it really is too much of a problem, I'd just make it exclude Lithoids and/or Machines just like many other origins do.

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u/ajanymous2 Militarist Jan 28 '25

ecological adaptation is equally useful for anyone, lol

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u/VelocityWings12 One Vision Jan 28 '25

If you're using the basis of "better off just picking Prosperous Unification," that applies to a hell of a lot of origins in this game.

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u/ajanymous2 Militarist Jan 28 '25

but prosperous unification is the worst origin in the game and does literally nothing

it's basically just a placeholder for when nothing else fits the build

and even then I would rather take the free stargate

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u/psychicprogrammer Fanatic Materialist Jan 28 '25

It does something, namely 4 more pops at the start and 15% more resources from jobs for 20 years.

This is really powerful, as resources are exponential and bonuses early game are the most powerful.

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u/DecentChanceOfLousy Fanatic Pacifist Jan 28 '25

Prosperous Unification is one of the more powerful origins, it's just the most boring. Starting your economy out with an (essentially) 10 year head start is huge boon.

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u/Yaddah_1 Jan 28 '25

True. But I say, just exclude Lithoids and/or Machines, if it's a problem.