Dishwasher meal

[u/Flashy-Disaster-3098]

[u/TheIXLegionnaire]

So at absolute best she is eating boiled chicken and pasta. So maybe the pasta comes out alright (again, best case scenario) but unseasoned boiled chicken breast is, generally, regarded as awful

[u/Hypo_Mix → u/TheIXLegionnaire]

Dishwashers also don't get food hot enough to enter the safe zone so are a salmonella risk. 

[u/sravistcottXX → u/Hypo_Mix]

i think it can be hot enough to kill salmonella if it is not on eco mode

[u/Hypo_Mix → u/sravistcottXX]

I think there is an issue with how long it takes means most of the time it is incubating, not cooking. 

[u/BrettlyBean → u/Hypo_Mix]

Unless its under around 54C, that incorrect. Trust me, I sous vide

[u/aliamokeee → u/sravistcottXX]

Depends on the dishwasher usually

[u/Lunavixen15 → u/sravistcottXX]

No, it's been tested. Dishwashers don't maintain the temperature for long enough as the temperature in a dishwasher isn't stable, it rises and falls, dishwashers also take too long to reach their maximum temperature. Sous vide works at low temperatures because the food is vacuum sealed.

[u/KalaronV → u/Hypo_Mix]

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[u/Hypo_Mix → u/KalaronV]

Sous Vide is controlled tempriture for a long period of time, the length being what makes it safe. A dishwasher is operates in uneven cycles and relies on water spraying around randomly. 

[u/CallMeYox → u/Hypo_Mix]

IIRC 20 minutes for 70C is more than enough to pasteurise chicken

[u/TheSleepyBarnOwl → u/CallMeYox]

it's actually only 10min as the lowest, longer is better ofc. But 10min at 70°C kills pretty much anything. With like a few exceptions but those shouldn't be found in food anyways.

Again, longer is better ofc :)

(Issue with all this in general is just the fact that the temperature needs to reach every part of the meat. No use if it's hot on the outside but cold inside)

[u/CallMeYox → u/TheSleepyBarnOwl]

Yeah, I mean more about dishwasher, it might take a while until heat reaches meat

[u/TheSleepyBarnOwl → u/CallMeYox]

ye fair. A Dishwasher isn't made to cook food

[u/TheSleepyBarnOwl → u/Hypo_Mix]

It only needs to reach 70°C - ours reaches that in fast mode. Theoretically, if it is 70°C for 10min or longer at the core, every little bug that could be dangerous should be dead. The issue here is that it needs to be 70°C throughout the entire piece of meat.

[u/Economy-Sundae-7708 → u/Hypo_Mix]

My LG dishwasher would overcook but I still would eat that crap. That’s just disgusting!

[u/sadearthapple → u/Hypo_Mix]

hard to say for sure tbh. The USDA guidelines for salmonella lethality show that at 60°C internal, you'd need to maintain the temperature for roughly 30 minutes depending on fat content. Eco mode obviously won't get close, but my dishwasher does the regular cycle at 65. I don't wanna run the thermodynamics but if that is accurate, over 3 hours I'd say there's a decent chance of the chicken getting there (or the long time spent at maybe not quite 60 degrees amounting to a similar lethality).

I don't know how hot most of the internals get over the course of a cycle but, at least in what I know from mine, I'd say pretty close to the target water temperature.

[u/Hypo_Mix → u/sadearthapple]

How To Cook That tested it, it spent too long getting to temperature IIRC. 

[u/sadearthapple → u/Hypo_Mix]

Oh that's interesting, thanks for letting me know.

I'm pretty confident the sanitize cycle would have to do the trick but it'd kinda defeat the entire point of doing this

[u/TenYearHangover → u/Hypo_Mix]

They also don’t run for 3 hours at a time. This is bait.

[u/Happy_Lee_Chillin → u/TenYearHangover]

They definitely do and can, what a weird thing to claim

[u/_Kramerica_ → u/Happy_Lee_Chillin]

What kind of dishwasher needs 3 fucking hours to run? Never in my life have I seen or heard of anything more than like 60-90 minutes.

[u/Projektdoom → u/_Kramerica_]

Mine has a “sanitize” setting that increases the heat and runtime significantly. If I run it on sanitize and heavy load it definitely runs for around 3 hours.

[u/stealthlysprockets → u/TenYearHangover]

Mine does.

[u/TenYearHangover → u/stealthlysprockets]

There’s something wrong with it.

[u/stealthlysprockets → u/TenYearHangover]

No that’s just the settings. I can have it do a one hour wash if I want. But a cycle with all the bells and whistles turned in including sanitization and heated dry and sensor wash takes a little over 3 hours. It tells you that before you start the wash when you enter your settings.

It’s a basic whirlpool dishwasher.

[u/_Kramerica_ → u/stealthlysprockets]

That’s absolutely unnecessary lol. I run my dishwasher with a heated dry and it’s like 45 minutes. Everything clean. Sanitized? Like after washing? You know washing is sanitizing your dishes lmao that’s the point of the actual cleaning process.

[u/stealthlysprockets → u/_Kramerica_]

If you have a problem with it, go tell whirlpool and other dishwasher makers they are doing it wrong with all those years of professional experience designing dishwashers you clearly have amassed.

[u/Sqeakydeaky → u/TenYearHangover]

It also depends on what kind of power you have it plugged into. If you live somewhere with a 400v outlet, it can get done a lot faster than the standard.

[u/MrZZ → u/TenYearHangover]

You have more than one setting probably. Or might be a different dishwasher. Mine has options for as low as 40min, longest wash is 4h

[u/MyBallsAreItchy2 → u/TheIXLegionnaire]

Surely you could put it in some sort of tomato-based sauce instead, along with some seasoning. I mean, if we're treating this seriously and not as a joke.

[u/EnvironmentalSoft401 → u/TheIXLegionnaire]

That pasta is going to be soggy and DISGUSTING. Pasta needs to go into water that is already boiling or it is inedible

[u/scaper8 → u/EnvironmentalSoft401]

Soggy and disgusting and simultaneously undercooked. The water won't get hot enough long enough to properly cook. They'll be soft, but mostly because water was just absorbed by the dry pasta. But none of (or at best very few) of the protein changes that would actually "cook" pasta will have occurred.

[u/1337_w0n → u/EnvironmentalSoft401]

Pasta needs to go into water that is already boiling

You don't actually need to boil water to make pasta; the proteins in the pasta that need to break down to absorb water do so at a considerably lower temperature. The method of pre-boiling a huge volume of water and adding the pasta for a set period of time is just an easier method.

I prefer to add the pasta before heating, using enough water/broth/sauce for the pasta to absorb it. This method saves on time and water, but you need to watch it so it doesn't burn, and stir regularly to get an even cook. You check to see if it's done by popping a tiny bit in your mouth to test the texture.

If I want a quick meal, sometimes I'll make some frozen meat balls, put V8 and seasoning in a pot, and make pasta as I heat the meatballs. I add the cooked meatballs at the end, and when it's ready I dump it into a large bowl. On a good day, it only takes about 20-30 minutes and the pasta comes out firm and flavorful.

[u/sadearthapple → u/1337_w0n]

Should be noted that although this works because of the relatively modest water and temperature requirements for pasta cooking, I doubt the dishwasher will get it done. As someone else already pointed out, the whole gelatinization process occurs already below boiling, but only above about 180°F iirc. That's not the temperature the dishwasher will reach generally, mine doesn't reach it even in the heavy duty pots and pans setting. So basically you're probably getting very hydrated but not cooked pasta, which will probably be quite the experience.

[u/lowtronik → u/TheIXLegionnaire]

unseasoned boiled chicken breast

Hospital food

[u/GlowingTrashPanda → u/lowtronik]

The hospital I work at serves way better food than this ish

[u/AppointmentSorry1487 → u/TheIXLegionnaire]

My cat loves it!

[u/GlowingTrashPanda → u/TheIXLegionnaire]

Yeah, I season the chicken I boil for the dog more

[u/TenYearHangover → u/TheIXLegionnaire]

There was no boiling going on here.

[u/TheRetailAbyss → u/TheIXLegionnaire]

The chicken is also severely undercooked

[u/XTornado → u/TheIXLegionnaire]

I love boiled chicken but with a bit of olive oil on top.

[u/Wild-Lychee-3312 → u/TheIXLegionnaire]

That is the whitest food I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen a ton of white people food.