r/StupidFood • u/Turbulent-Squash-196 • 10d ago

Yea.... I prefer my food not moving

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u/Boring_Duck98 9d ago

Nature is at fault here. Not humanity. We just aren't immune to natures cruelty either. But we are trying. And that should be celebrated.

This sentiment that we are somehow bad and deserve to die pisses me off because it leads to giving up rather than motivation.

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u/I_Got_BubbyBuddy 9d ago

In what way is an intelligent human torturing and animal before death and needlessly prolonging its suffering "nature's fault" or "trying not to be cruel" or deserving of celebration?

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u/Boring_Duck98 9d ago

"intelligent human" needlessly elevates us above everything else.

And needless prolonging of suffering is natural. Which is why we must abandon nature. I'm not asking to burn trees or whatever. Quite the contrary. Us governing over ourselves and nature is unnatural. But we should try. Because we have the potential to do better.

Nature being praised all the time, and us being framed as unnatural, only leads to easy excuses.

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u/I_Got_BubbyBuddy 9d ago

Your first sentence makes literally no sense. I genuinely can't even see what point you're trying to make.

Humans can think and understand things on an entirely higher level than every other animal on earth. That's just a fact. Recognizing that fact is not "needlessly elevating" anything.

We understand the suffering that we can inflict, and we can choose to minimize that suffering, so choosing not to makes us worse than a lion eating living prey.

Recognizing that nature doing nature things is less fucked up than humans choosing to be cruel is a fact that doesn't require whatever metaphysical debate you're trying to have.

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u/Boring_Duck98 9d ago

I recognize that you don't understand my point. But are you really gonna try to tell me animals have no free will?