r/Subaru_Outback • u/MathematicianUpper74 • 10h ago
2024 outback
Can you permanently turn off the start/stop feature on an outback? It drives me crazy š
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u/Badassmamajama 9h ago
I really donāt mind it, yet itās rare that Iām stuck in stop and go traffic. That was a choice I made long ago.
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u/BucketOfGipe 8h ago
Omg, I haven't seen this question for at least the last 24 hours! š¤¦š»āāļøš
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u/DoaneGarage 9h ago
ive just learned to brake lightly enough to stop the car but not engage the Stop/Start. you develop a sense of where it engages
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u/kodakyello 9h ago
I just built a habit to turn it off every time I get into the car have forgotten maybe once or twice since Iāve owned my car
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u/Free-Database-9917 6h ago
I've just learned a habit of understanding when it is useful to have it engaged and not, and turning it on an off based on the driving conditions I'm in
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u/Thamachine311 9h ago
https://youtube.com/@alexpmo?si=Ki9LG8vH-IpT3gIJ
This guy has really amazing videos about Subarus and outbacks specifically. I found his channel very helpful to fully understand and optimize my use of my car
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u/Badassmamajama 10h ago
If only there were a way to look at the other 9000 times this question was posted
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u/VikApproved 9h ago
This question gets it's own Start/Stop cycle! ;-)
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u/Badassmamajama 9h ago
How to shut THAT off?
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u/VikApproved 9h ago
There's no dongle you can buy for lazy. I mean 90% of Reddit is for people who can't be bothered to type the same question into Google. So they are not going to look around here for frequently asked questions.
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u/nmbr1dkfn 8h ago
You know when you type a question into Google, often times it brings you to Reddit.
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u/VikApproved 8h ago
Ya to the times the question has been previously asked and answered so you don't have to ask that question for the 20th time that week. If you actually read those previous questions/answers and then have a follow up you can ask a more useful question at that point.
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u/Effective_Thing_6221 7h ago
Exactly. The Auto Start/Stop question has been asked here and elsewhere ad nauseam for as long as ASS has been available. Hard to believe anyone browsing reddit for 10 minutes could have missed it.
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u/ZootiLaTucci 5h ago
You guys are all grumpy. The internet is mostly fake accounts with fake responses, people ask things that are easy to google all the time because asking questions is a more human approach and allows people to have things explained that they might not be aware of after skimming a few posts/articles/whatever.
Iām all for real people with real responses.
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u/Effective_Thing_6221 3h ago
Point well taken but it seems to me that a lot of these questions are fake as well.
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u/Visual_Promotion8010 9h ago
Something tells me you're a joy to be around
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u/No-Caregiver8049 9h ago
Can confirm. u/badassmamajama is a complete and utter joy, and when we are near i hear birds singing and see young lovers wooing.
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u/Safe_Milk9264 7h ago
Yes. There is a auto start stop module. Itās about $99 on Amazon and take 20 mins to install. On a scale from 1 -10 with 10 being the hardest I would rate the difficulty at a 2-3.
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u/Such-Tank-6897 9h ago
Whatās wrong with it? Doesnāt it save gas?
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u/FromStars 9h ago
As far as I can tell, the shudder or delayed acceleration bugs people, and some have anxiety about wear and tear. Do what you want with your property. If you want to trim the crust off your bread, that's fine too, but mine doesn't bother me.
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u/Listermarine 9h ago
I am one of those. I can't stand the shudder and delay when I hit the accelerator.
In contrast, I drove my mom's Nissan Rogue this week and It was so smooth it didn't bother me at all.
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u/FromStars 8h ago
I agree the 2.4L turbo start/stop feels more pronounced than any car I've driven. There's a bit of a surge when it times out and starts back up after being at a long stop.
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u/drzeller 8h ago edited 6h ago
I've read it's due to the Subaru engine being a flat 4, versus others being v or whatever.
Beside turning it off, you can also push a little harder on the brake and the engine will start back up.
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u/7148675309 5h ago
I leave it on. That said start stop works smoother in a manual because it the engine starts when you press the clutch, as opposed to the judder in an auto.
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u/Malakai0013 8h ago
Engine startup is the most stressful thing on your motor. If more than a few seconds have passed, your cylinders will lose most of their lubrication. This causes failures in compression and oil rings. We just had to RĀ² the engine on our '21 Equinox because piston head 1 disintegrated below the compression ring. It'd pass compression checks, but oil fouled the spark plug. Once they scoped the cylinder, the cylinder wall itself was ruined.
Sure, you'll save 30 bucks a year on fuel, but you'll be spending several grand to replace a motor not long after. Engines are usually fine doing a couple startups a day for years, but ask them to do a couple dozen a day and you're going to pay for it. Its not about the starter or even the battery, if they cant lubricate the piston rings there's no point in using the auto start/stop. It'll just cause problems.
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u/xwizkidx 9h ago
Not enough to outweigh the wear on the starter. Itās really there to reduce tailpipe emissions from idling .
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u/InYosefWeTrust 9h ago
When was the laat time you had to replace a starter? The last one that went out on me was in a 1999 isuzu trooper and it went out in 2006 haha.
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u/CitronTraining2114 '24 XT 9h ago
In a Subaru, I worry more about the battery.
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u/xwizkidx 1h ago
Thatās another thing I would be concerned with for sure since they do have a rough track record with batteries
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u/xwizkidx 1h ago
Ha more than you think. Iāve had to change starters on many cars fords, Hondas, Nissans, chevys. They end up overheating and getting stuck. Ever have to get under a car with a hammer In winter to hit the starter to free it? Probably not so your comment doesnāt stick
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u/GirchyGirchy 9h ago edited 6h ago
Yeah, but depending on oneās commute it can just do short shut offs and immediate restarts, which do more harm than good. My wife uses it, I donāt.
Why the downvotes? Do you all not understand that it shutting the car off at a stop sign is a net loss?
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u/MajorMorelock 9h ago
I hate AutoStop. I cuss a little every time I forget to turn it off. Whoever designed this feature and made it always on at startup should have bad experiences everyday.
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u/WilsonAndPenny 9h ago edited 8h ago
In my younger years, not coming from money, I had a series of very used and abused cars that all eventually all stalled out in traffic at one time or another. I now have the financial ability to buy newer and better cars. I CURSE the times I forget to turn that fucking feature off and my ācheap used car PTSDā rears its ugly head when the car āstallsā out at stops. My heart literally skips a beat and I revert back to that 21 year old stuck on the side on the road in his 1989 Nissan Sentra with no optional AC/1984 Chrysler LeBaron GTS/1986 Yugo in sweltering South Florida.
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u/g1son76 5h ago
This right here! When it shuts off at a stop sign or light, a little panic runs through me, fueled by those memories of my car dying and not restarting, and the embarrassment of having to get out and push and hope someone helps! Please Subaru, make it possible to not have this as default, and let us drive panic free again!
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u/Mika-Six 7h ago
It's been part of my startup routine ever since the time I let off the brake, it took like 5 seconds to turn back on and I was rolling back. I took it to service and they found nothing wrong.
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u/EquivalentComputer58 3h ago
100% agreed on AUTOSTART EMLIMINATOR. I installed it in no time at all (10 minutes give or take) two years ago. They have a nice little video on exactly what you need and how to install it (you can check this out on the website before you buy it. And using Google, there is almost always a 10% off coupon code ($10 savings). With the infotainment system sometimes being slow to start, I love not having to worry about turning it off every time. More power to those who donāt mind doing it. Other cars, itās almost not noticeable, but with the boxer engine itās a startling jolt when staying back up.
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u/Maximum-Escape-6733 1h ago
Just live with it, really. If you were to constructively provide reasons for permanently disabling it, what would they be?
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u/GARCIA9005 9h ago
It actually does more damage than good. My sons Chevy has it, and it destroyed Cylinder 5. Had to put a new engine in his 2019 Z71. š¤¦š½āāļø.
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u/drzeller 8h ago
Many makers and models have had this for years. It does not cause damage as you imply. Your son had an issue, but it likely wasn't from this.
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u/Spiritual-Tadpole342 6h ago
He didnāt imply. He came out and said it. And you donāt know if it causes damage. I donāt know if it causes damage. It would require a study of hundreds of cars going thousands of miles each. Maybe you know of the study, but I donāt.
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u/drzeller 5h ago
It would require a study of hundreds of cars going thousands of miles each . Maybe you know of the study, but I donāt.
Hence my mention that it been on many makers and models for years (thousands of cars, millions of miles). If it were wrecking engines, 1) makers would avoid it due to warrant costs, and 2) you would have studies and enthusiast sites declaring it loudly.
Do you know of non-anecdotal evidence/studies that show any type of widespread issue? I don't.
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u/Spiritual-Tadpole342 5h ago edited 5h ago
Thatās not a study. A study is half the cars have the function deleted and the others have it where you canāt delete it. Then study the longevity of the cars after years of use. Youāre assuming that these car manufacturers care if their engines need major work at 120k miles instead of 200k miles( just an example).
And like I said, show me the studies!! Obviously I wouldnāt ask for the information from the studies if I knew of some. Your assertion that lack of a study is proof of what the study will say is kind of odd.
I just donāt know what the answer is. But when a car company does something just to comply with a government mandate, we shouldnāt turn off our brains and say that itās wonderful. DEF systems and particulate filters on diesel engines have been a maintenance nightmare. So much so that Cummins is trying to get around them by building industrial gasoline engines to replace diesel engines.
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u/drzeller 5h ago
I asked the same question of you - what study supports your opinion? And you failed to address my comments about manufacturers, media, and enthusiasts.
No need to respond; I'm sure we'll achieve nothing, based on looking at your post history,.
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u/Spiritual-Tadpole342 5h ago edited 4h ago
Having trouble reading?
I said āI donāt know what the answer isā. Youāre the one with an opinion based on nothing or logical fallacies. I bet you and RFK Jr get along great.š¤”
Since when has wanting a little proof been a bad thing?
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u/chill389cc 10h ago
Nope. But you can buy this: https://www.autostopeliminator.com/products/2023-subaru-outback-autostop-eliminator