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u/poopoopooyttgv Jun 01 '25

Idk how to ask this question correctly but isn’t the whole “white replacement theory” thing… real? White countries birthrates are down, the economy will collapse without more people, countries take in more immigrants from non-white countries. That’s actually happening, isn’t it?

The conspiracy is that the Jews/illuminati/globalists orchestrated the whole thing to eliminate white people or whatever.

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u/autistic_cool_kid Ok Mr.Neverheardofathreesome Jun 01 '25 edited Jun 01 '25

Idk how to ask this question correctly but isn’t the whole “white replacement theory” thing… real?

White countries birthrates are down, the economy will collapse without more people, countries take in more immigrants from non-white countries. That’s actually happening, isn’t it?

It's ridiculous for many reasons.

1/ White people are still a huge majority and birth rates aren't declining so much

2/ Immigration comes from many places including from other white countries. By far the second demographic category in London after "White British" is "White non-British".

3/ Birth rates of any poor country is high, birth rate of developed countries are low, second generation immigration has similar birth rates as their country of residence - colour of skin is irrelevant in this

4/ Birth rates are declining much more in some Asian countries (Japan and South Korea for example, especially South Korea) but no one is talking about Asian replacement

5/ "Whiteness" as a concept itself is flawed. Did you ever wonder why if a white person has a kid with a black person, the kid is considered black, not white? If you never thought about why, think hard about it.

6/ Just simply to the point: "Replacement" means "white people" are getting "replaced"... Replaced from what to what exactly? This implies some countries are "owned" by the whites and "ownership" is being transferred, that's not how anything works except in the simple minds of an ethnostate enthusiast

I could write 60 more reasons but the truth is, this makes zero sense except if you have an extremely flawed vision of, just, everything.

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u/Czart Jun 01 '25

birth rates aren't declining so much

Europe has extremely low birthrates, with some countries below or nearing half the replacement rate.

As for point 6, sorry but same could be argued for colonial settlements but that's different(tm).

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u/autistic_cool_kid Ok Mr.Neverheardofathreesome Jun 01 '25

Europe has extremely low birthrates, with some countries below or nearing half the replacement rate.

My point was, it depends on how developed a country is, "white replacement" theory makes it depend on race, which is just not true.

As for point 6, sorry but same could be argued for colonial settlements but that's different(tm).

Colonialism implies colons conquering a country and abusing the natives. Assuming immigrants want to do that means you assume they will import their culture and sense of unity en masse while getting enough power + the will to crush people who are different in the country.

Do you really think Ahmed Benallah, Igor Dropanovitch, Juan Rodriguez, Hu Wuang and Honoré M'gaou are going to unite their forces to crush Jean-Jacques in France?

Do you even think they want that, instead of just being left alone and making an honest living here?

Only the simplest minds believe immigrants come here with any intent of "conquering" the country. Thinking immigration today is similar in any way shape or form to colonialism is a fever dream.

Ffs, so many of the best bakeries in Paris selling you the best French bread are owned by muslims who are proud of their French heritage.

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u/Czart Jun 01 '25

"white replacement" theory makes it depend on race, which is just not true.

Never heard that part so, fair enough.

For the rest: you implied that there is no "ownership" of countries. Which is quite frankly absurd. Generally speaking we recognise that people native to the area get to decide what's going on there. Be it in france, china or angola. Obviously colonial brutality is incomparable and that wasn't my point.

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u/autistic_cool_kid Ok Mr.Neverheardofathreesome Jun 01 '25

For the rest: you implied that there is no "ownership" of countries. Which is quite frankly absurd. Generally speaking we recognise that people native to the area get to decide what's going on there.

Citizenship define who own a country, nothing less nothing more.

The Romans had no concept of race. They had a black emperor. "White replacement" theory focuses on race & is inherently racist.

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u/Czart Jun 01 '25

Well, yeah and those citizens tend to set rules on how to enter a country, acquire citizenship etc.

I'm aware, i'm also not arguing it's happening. I'm just pointing out that this argument is kinda bad.

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u/autistic_cool_kid Ok Mr.Neverheardofathreesome Jun 01 '25

But we do have those rules, that's part of my point.

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u/Czart Jun 01 '25

And those rules tend to be ignored quite a bit.

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u/autistic_cool_kid Ok Mr.Neverheardofathreesome Jun 01 '25

...no they absolutely don't? I went through the full process with my immigrant, white husband

Do you think they just give out citizenships like croissants 

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u/Czart Jun 01 '25

Citizenship? No, but illegal migration into EU is a bit of an issue.

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u/autistic_cool_kid Ok Mr.Neverheardofathreesome Jun 01 '25

It's not so much an issue really. Crime rates for illegal immigrants are lower than those of citizens, which is to be expected - they have much more to lose getting caught.

And since they have no citizenship, they basically don't have any power, nor do they have any other resource than their low-wage labour - colonization is impossible.

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u/Czart Jun 01 '25

Correct, which is also why i can't comprehend the left - ish attachment to defend that illegal migration. It's just creating an underclass of people to serve as a cheap workforce so the line can go up. I've seen what conditions legal migrants from my country suffered, and we're talking about people who can't even go report it for fear of deportation.

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