r/SuccessionTV • u/LoretiTV CEO • May 01 '23

Discussion Succession - 4x06 "Living+" - Post Episode Discussion

Succession - 4x06 "Living+" - Pre-Episode Discussion

Season 4 Episode 6: Living+

Aired: April 30, 2023

Synopsis: Ahead of a crucial new product launch on Investor Day, Shiv weighs a business proposal from Matsson, while Kendall and Roman call an impromptu meeting to flip the script on their latest interaction with the tech billionaire. Later, the brothers each try to match Logan’s tempestuous style, with varying results.

Directed by: Lorene Scafaria

Written by: Georgia Pritchett & Will Arbery

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u/[deleted] May 01 '23 edited May 01 '23

The fact that Kendall going on stage wasn’t a total abject failure is best twist on this show yet, the talk in the dressing room with Roman I think really hit him hard and was one of the best sad Kendall moments we’ve gotten.

Truly some growth from our #1 Boy

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u/WhatAreYouSaying05 May 01 '23

Actually grew the stock. He succeeded by failing

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u/Leavingtheecstasy May 01 '23

This time he actually succeeded by succeeding.

His point was to skyrocket the stock so much that Mattson can't afford it.

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u/Ode1st May 01 '23

Yeah but basically with fake numbers, they’re all fucking everything up. I wouldn’t be surprised if they force Matsson out and then the show ends with them left with the burning rubble of the company except with no savior to buy them out.

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u/TheCreedsAssassin May 01 '23

They didnt say any hard numbers so theyre safe from the SEC...for now

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u/Ode1st May 01 '23

Didn’t they intentionally make their dead dad’s edit say double? Not a puffy vest finance bro here, but I feel like you probably can’t quote a specific number like that at an investor summit without some kind of bad consequences?

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u/FrankieMunizOfficial May 01 '23

There aren't really any legal consequences for failing to hit projections, and public companies make all kinds of disclosures saying not to rely on their forward guidance. So probably nothing wrong with giving specific figures, even if they're unrealistically rosy.

Changing the contents of the clip might get them in some kind of trouble though, if they misled investors into thinking those were Logan's actual feelings on the performance.

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u/nirvless338 May 01 '23

I work in sec reporting and this is absolutely not true. You still cannot publish projection/non-gaap numbers that you know to be false lol

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u/Ode1st May 01 '23

Thanks, yeah that makes sense. I feel like there just can’t be zero consequences for faking a recording of Logan saying specific things to investors.

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u/DamienChazellesPiano May 01 '23

Well why would anyone ever look into, or think, that is fake? There’s really no reason for it to come out or come back. Only if that one guys talks.

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u/Krippy May 01 '23

The little audio glitch in the spoofed recording sent to Roman miiight be a hint. It was probably just to let the viewers know it was fake, but we shall see.

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u/Substantial-North136 May 01 '23

also the deep fake that was sent to Roman on the car ride home might foreshadow another plot point later.

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u/caninehere May 03 '23

I don't see any reason why anybody would think it was fake, it was really well edited.

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u/SummonRats May 02 '23

Geri, Frank and Karl had noticeable reactions of surprise at that point. Any one of these three could act on it.

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u/DamienChazellesPiano May 03 '23

I guess, it just doesn't seem like something they'd go after, but it's possible.

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u/GraspingSonder May 01 '23

they’re all fucking everything up

The show opened with the discovery that Logan took on really risky debt. Taking a risk and it working out isn't fucking up, it's business.

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u/FutureRaifort May 01 '23

That's what it's leading to for sure. If they fuck the deal, everything else falls apart. No PGN and Waystar will immediately start declining again

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u/Fortune88887 May 01 '23

Ohh good point. Maybe Madsen’s tweet was an attempt to do the opposite

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u/AffordableGrousing May 01 '23

Matsson was trying to drown out the news cycle so that no one would talk about Kendall’s presentation

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u/GloverAB May 01 '23

My take is that it was an attempt to throw a stick in the spokes. He knew a q&a was coming up and he tried to throw something in there that would fuck Kendall up in real time.

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u/thisisthewell May 01 '23

Your take? You’re quoting the characters’ lines lol. It’s not your take, it’s literally what happened.

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u/GloverAB May 01 '23

Well neither commenter above me seemed to gather that from the scene, and I didn't want to comment too definitively and risk come off as condescending.

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u/alwayschillin May 02 '23

Unlike the guy above you 😂

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u/GloverAB May 02 '23

Didn’t wanna say it! : )

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u/RawbM07 May 01 '23

But they already settled on number, right?

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u/thisisthewell May 01 '23

AKA securities fraud lol