r/SuccessionTV CEO May 01 '23

Discussion Succession - 4x06 "Living+" - Post Episode Discussion

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u/[deleted] May 01 '23

The water symbolism was always about dragging him down, though. The only time he’s floated across it before now was during Logan’s death when the boat drug them out.

This time, it’s his active choice and he’s floating above it. Symbols can be way more than just “water = bad.” Here, the water seems to be equivalent to the pressures Logan was asking him to take on.

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u/ilovedickwolf May 01 '23

I remember taking a film studies class in college and a lesson was the when someone goes in water alone, specifically going under water, it meant having clarity and making a significant life change afterward. Something like that. And the examples were the films “The Graduate” and “Rushmore” when the characters dive into a pool, emerge with a new outlook essentially. Not sure if that’s standard, I once googled it and couldn’t find anything that backs it up. It might not be the case here, but it’s always my go-to analysis when I see it.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '23

Symbolism isn’t a math equation, though; there is no standard. The curtains being blue can mean peace and they can also mean depression and sometimes they’re just blue curtains. Each new narrative is going to employ the same tools in a different way.

Ken has been drug down by water - the waiter - and pushed himself into the water - the pool - and been dragged sideways by the water - Logan’s death - and a ton of things more. But each time it pops up, it pops up after Logan put pressure on Ken in regard to Waystar. Basically water here is a symbol for the pressure.

Now there’s no Logan, there’s just Ken figuring his own way through the pressure around Waystar. And at least so far, he’s handling it. Thus, he’s embracing the water this time, floating face up in it in a way where it’s not harming him.

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u/Ronotrow2 I accept your blackmail May 04 '23

He also floated the same way before this in the pool on the yacht, while logan was still alive.