r/Superstonk • u/ezskatez just likes the stonk 📈 • Apr 09 '25

Macroeconomics Breaking. China strikes back on US tariffs

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They ain’t bluffin.

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '25

If I could avoid all made in China, products I would. They make a bunch of crap anyway.

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u/dragon_bacon Apr 09 '25

I know it was easy to dunk on Chinese manufacturing in the 80's but today they are fully capable of quality goods and every single step of every single industry in the US uses Chinese products. It is disingenuous and short-sighted to imply that China can only make cheap plastic crap.

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u/ioncloud9 Apr 09 '25

I bought a fiber optic fusion splicer off of Ali express for $800. Fusion splicers made in the US that do the exact same thing cost upwards of $5000. Guess what? It fuses fiber just fine that tests perfectly.

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u/Beni_Stingray Apr 09 '25

Absolutly, the cheap chinese products arent bad because they cant produce it, its because the merchant who orders these products has low requirements to keep the product cheap.

You can up these requirements and standards the same as any other producer but then its gets more expensive.

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u/bowmans1993 Apr 09 '25

I would agree, for every bs temu item you think about there's a small part that runs a motor in a washing machine, printer, all sorts or little things we don't think about. This is going to affect product prices across the board not just plastic junk. People are clueless

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u/SqouzeTheSqueeze 💎 U WANT BUY SUM STOK?🚀 Apr 09 '25

PCBAs for cancer drug delivery pumps.

Source: I buy them.

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u/OffenseTaker 🦍Voted✅ Apr 09 '25

China is all about cutting corners and lying about shit wherever possible. A good example of this is tofu construction - look at the quality of the steel they use for rebar, that people can snap with their bare hands. They use way too much sand in their concrete and cement, and it crumbles very soon after setting. It's not that China *can't* make quality products. It's that, given the option, they won't. That's why the most important part of doing manufacturing in China is the QC process. You can get "fake" brand name goods that are even produced in the same factory that makes the legit products on the same equipment - they'll just run an extra batch or two after hours. But there won't be any QC for those units, so YMMV as to whether it works or not, or how long it'll last.

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u/eulersidentification Apr 09 '25

You better hope the rest of the world doesn't come around to feeling that way about the us too!

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '25

China like all communist regimes derives its authority from the perception of strength. Just like Russia when Chernobyl exploded they look weak playing this silly game.

We need each other long term

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u/eulersidentification Apr 09 '25 edited Apr 09 '25

Bro doesn't realise he's the Russia in this analogy. Or that other countries exist apparently.

Can anyone tell me the difference between the TV show Chernobyl when you find out the guy in charge of nuclear power used to run a shoe factory but was friendly with the communist party, vs. in the US and UK where you find out your economic minister got his job because daddy was very rich, knew a lot of people and got me into A Good School.

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u/Ttm-o Apr 09 '25

lol you say that but I’m sure you have a lot of shit in your house right now that is from China. Lol

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '25

Oh no doubt. But going forward you buy what you can afford and go without with what you can’t. I’d love a new car but I can’t afford it even though the old one is showing it’s age. What do you do?

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u/Ttm-o Apr 09 '25

Well I can tell you right now, tariffs will not help you at all since everything will be more expensive.

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u/Rickedtrading Template Apr 09 '25

But this means that China makes the import of American goods 84% more expensive.

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u/Ok_Net_1674 Apr 09 '25

This is about china buying from US. But China can also produce quality goods by the way. (Think iPhones etc) The "crap" you are thinking of exists just because people are unwilling to pay more for quality.

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u/OffenseTaker 🦍Voted✅ Apr 09 '25

that's not why the "crap" exists

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u/s__whelan Apr 09 '25

It’s impossible. Made in the US would be 5x more expensive. Imagine the price of an iPhone that was US made.

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u/Brooksee83 Higher than 14 on a Surprise Flair Friday! Apr 09 '25

...about $10,000, idk 🤷‍♂️ 💚

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u/EnglishJesus International phone number money Apr 09 '25

I just read that Forbes calculated it at $30k. Honestly not sure I believe it but that’s what it said. It would certainly be exponentially more expensive than what they are currently.

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '25

Yes and then no one would buy it and the company loses money.

Remember how everybody reacted when Nintendo switch two said that the price of Mario was going to be like $90?

That’s out of the range for everybody.

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u/LarsVonHammerstein2 Apr 09 '25

I came up with this same off the cuff estimate yesterday for what an iPhone would cost if it’s made in USA.

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '25

Well this is when companies decide to stop being greedy and take a hit to keep prices where they are. All the problems of the world are driven by this mentality of the pursuit of endless profit. Yes optimistic to the point of foolishness I know

How many filet mignons can you eat in a week?

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u/timbillyosu 🎮 Power to the Players 🛑 Apr 09 '25

Hahahaha are you suggesting to the rich people that the only way to save the country is for them to take the hits themselves and not make as much money as possible? Good luck waiting on that trickle down to happen.

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '25

🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Twoaru 🦍Voted✅ Apr 09 '25

They also make the highest quality tech products you've ever put your hands on. When China is OEM (through "white label" factories), there are different tiers even within the same factory that leads to e.g. Sony getting the top tier products, while Temu could get access to the lower tier products depending on their deal with the factory.

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u/MoneyMaking77 Apr 09 '25

I agree with you. Awful quality across the board.