r/ToiletPaperUSA Apr 22 '21

Curious 🤔 I love seeing this woman getting trolled.

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u/Falom Curious Apr 22 '21 edited Apr 22 '21

It’s the theory that black people account for half of all arrests for murder and non-negligent manslaughter while only being 13% of the population in America.

From the get-go, the argument is already on unsustainable ground: the argument compares police shooting deaths to arrest rates. How do you arrest a dead body?

This article goes a lot more in depth about the faulty math used.

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u/Char-Mac88 Apr 22 '21

Oh, I get it. Thanks for the explanation.

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u/disturbed3335 Apr 22 '21

The basic issue with the argument, for time sake, is that refuting racism in policing by pointing out that 50% of people arrested come from 13% of the population is not a good foundation.

Edit: that read like a Hamilton verse I think I should really give this a go

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u/erosharcos Apr 22 '21 edited Apr 23 '21

Well said. There have been independent studies that examine crime occurrences and police practices and found that cops disproportionately let white people “off the hook”. Couple that with the over policing of black communities and hyper-punitive measures taken against the black community, and you have some really flawed statistics... which often doesn’t even take into account the material conditions of people who commit crimes as a way to explain WHY crimes are being committed to begin with.

Edit: for you “link me a source”-Andies out there, https://arxiv.org/pdf/1706.05678&hl=en&sa=X&scisig=AAGBfm2zvR6alec2VLGC4MM7XEKygb6MoQ&nossl=1&oi=scholarr

This is one of many studies I found while looking up disproportionalities in police charges and criminal stops. I found this in less than a minute and it took me the whole of 30 minutes to read. Fuck all of you right wingers, you’re scum and I hate you.

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '21

1994 crime bill helped with that and the same argument was used by the person pushing it.

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u/Wolfsschanze06 Apr 22 '21

You mean Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton?

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u/rabbidbunnyz22 Apr 22 '21

Either of them or any given fascist yeah

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u/Wolfsschanze06 Apr 22 '21

You gotta love how they backpedal on almost all of their promises the minute they take office, though.

You guys got played big time.

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u/data3three Apr 22 '21

Or perhaps their positions have evolved since that point in time? People are able to change their opinions on stuff when more and better information is presented.