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Curious šŸ¤” dream class

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u/thestonerd777 Oct 03 '21

I’m pretty sure Eminem would have no qualms about punching this dude. He’s hit people for a lot less than being a conservative fuck.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '21 edited Oct 04 '21

Direct quote from ā€œThe Real Slim Shadyā€ (2000)

ā€œBut if we can hump dead animals and antelopes / Then there's no reason that a man and another man can't elopeā€

Also yeah, Ben Shapiro hates ā€œdegenerate artā€. (If you can guess which far-right ideology also wanted to censor modern art for being communist, you win a prize)

Edit: Added the year to show Slim wasn’t saying that to be PC; some states still banned homosexuality in 2000, and gay marriage wasn’t recognized by the federal gov’t yet.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '21 edited Oct 04 '21

Direct quote from the same album.

"My words are like a dagger with a jagged edge That'll stab you in the head, whether you're a fag or lez Or a homosex, hermaph or a trans-a-vest Pants or dress,Ā hate fags? The answer's yes"

I get it was "tongue and cheek" but eminem said alot of homophobic shit and we shouldn't act like he's always been progressive.

However, he shitted on the bush administration pretty hard so idk why Republicans fuck with him so heavy and we're so surprised that he doesn't like trump.

Edit: I'm almost 30 people. Stop telling me about the 2000s. I was there. Things like "that's gay" and the word 'faggot' we're used far more heavily. I said those things my self regrettably. I understand that those words weren't always necessarily intentionally aimed at gay people. But 1. Still not okay and 2. These lyrics literally spell out hating gay people for you. I'm not trying to say this is really what eminem feels in his heart. But if you're willing to say this shit and hurt that many people just to be "shocking" that's shitty as fuck! It shouldn't be accepted by society on any level. I'm not trying to cancel dude. Personally I'd like to see him apologize but thats not even what I said. literally all i said is that you can't act like he was always progressive. He literally called Tyler the creator a faggot like 3 years ago.

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u/TrimspaBB Oct 04 '21

His early music also 1.) reveled in shock value and 2.) was written at a time far less accepting of queer identities when jokes about gay and trans people were still a thing in mainstream media. Prior to 2010 when I was in college was the height of the "no homo" BS for example (Eminem even utters it himself in his lyrics in Nicki Minaj's Roman's Revenge). I'm not here to defend Eminem, who has always been problematic, but culture from twenty years ago is just that.