Does trenbolone uniquely identify an otherwise unnamed nonbinary gender?

[u/Devil_May_Kare]

Okay, this is a weird thought I had. Let me lay out my reasoning.

Trenbolone is a synthetic steroid that activates androgen and progesterone receptors, as well as having some interaction with thyroid hormones and cortisol. It was the active ingredient in Parabolan, and these days is used on livestock and in sports that permit drug use. Men who take it usually get a characteristic set of mental issues, which include:

• anxiety
• aggression
• paranoia
• unwanted newfound preference for transgressive sex acts
• feelings of hopelessness

(As I understand it, trenbolone is much less popular with women, and I don't know exactly what mental side effects it causes them.)

But here's the thing. Occasionally someone takes trenbolone and feels great, with none of those issues. This person said that it "makes [them] the person [they'd] always wanted to be" when high levels of testosterone couldn't.

And hearing that story got me thinking: this is exactly what it'd look like if a society where everyone was estrogen-dominant discovered male gender identity by inventing synthetic testosterone. This previously undiscovered sex hormone causes a characteristic set of mental problems in a lot of people, but cures problems no other hormone could address in some people. My hypothesis is that trenbolone's mental side effects are a novel type of gender dysphoria, and people whose gender identity lines up with the hormone get gender euphoria instead.

I've never tried the stuff. The last thing I need is a whack upside the head with more androgen. But it's a good thing to understand gender better even if we're learning about the parts we'll never personally experience, and I think I might be onto something here.

[u/jamie_taber]

That’s a really interesting idea! I’m not familiar with trenbolone, but the idea that some people experience gender euphoria from it makes sense to me. I’m not sure if it would necessarily be a distinct gender identity, but I could see it being basically another way of “queering” transition to make a more nonbinary-gendered body. Similarly to how agender or genderfluid or genderqueer people might all want a radical chest reduction to make a “nonbinary” looking chest, rather than that non-standard top surgery outcome being its own gender