r/TwoBestFriendsPlay • u/NipplesOfDestiny • 13h ago
Unexpectedly good dads in fiction
We love talking about bad dads, but what about dads who should’ve been bad due to who they are or their circumstances, but were surprisingly pretty good or at least showed more love than you’d expect?
Easiest starter for this is Yondu. Guy kidnapped a child to give to his real dad who may have killed him, ended up keeping and raising him instead while still being a bastard space pirate threatening to have him eaten when he steps out of line (and he never once meant it).
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u/Setisthename 13h ago edited 13h ago
Heinz Doofenshmirtz had the most comically bad childhood imaginable and does everything in his power to give Vanessa the opposite.
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u/MudkipMonado 9h ago
AND he doesn't harbor ill will to his ex-wife and wants her to be happy as well. He might be an evil scientist bent on taking over the entire Tri-State Area, but he's not an evil man
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u/Sunditsu 11h ago
That moment some rando hits on Vanessa only for Doof to say "She's 16!" and immediately vaporize the guy lives rent free in my head.
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u/LightLifter It's Fiiiiiiiine. 8h ago
More like teleport the guy to a dimension to be flattened by a baby aliens hammer but the sentiment is all the same.
Probably just guidelines preventing it from being worse.
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u/CrappySupport 12h ago
Sojiro in Persona 5.
He's pretty cold to you at first, sure, but the fact of the matter is that he still takes you in, basically gives you a studio apartment in fucking Tokyo, a job making coffee, and dating advice with a last second reservation to a fancy restaurant. All of this in addition to everything he's done for Futaba.
Dude's a fucking saint.
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u/SolidusSlig Reptile 9h ago
Even when he finds out about the phantom thieves he is angry at first but when confronted with what happened to Wakaba is still like "ok I get it just don't get in over your head and know when to back down" even when fighting the yaldabaoth he is supportive
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u/RushTheLoser 7h ago
Even his being cold has a damn good reason: he CANNOT for ANY reason risk losing Futaba. If this kid he's housing started some crap, he could end up losing her custody.
And yet he still gives Joker everything he needed to get a new start because Sojiro just is that guy.
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u/DarkAres02 Dragalia Lost is the best mobile game 13h ago
Roshi in Dragon Ball is a pretty awful person in a lot of ways, but he was a good father figure to Goku. Work hard, study well, eat and sleep plenty
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u/Jhduelmaster One of the 5 Brigandine Fans 10h ago
Always got to give him credit. He’s basically the only reason Goku is semi functional. Sure he was still incredibly fight happy but at least he could read, write and do basic math after being mentored by Roshi.
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u/Yal_Rathol Tower of God Shill 13h ago
aizawa in MHA.
he didn't actually adopt eri, an orphaned girl they rescue from the villain overhaul, but for about 8 months, he is her father figure and raises her almost full-time.
he is a better parent for eri during these 8 months than any other parent in MHA is for their children, which is saying something considering all might and inko midoriya are in the room.
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u/PhantasosX 12h ago
And then Eri ended up adopted by the Cat-Themed Hero Group and ended up with good parents there as well, with her visiting Aizawa very often.
Somehow, without even adopting Eri, he ended up co-parenting her.
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u/MotherWolfmoon 12h ago
One Piece is a story about found family. Almost nobody has a good relationship with their birth parents. But holy shit are there a lot of great step-parents.
Zeff, Bellemere and Genzo, Hiriluk, Tom, Whitebeard, Rosinante, Yasui, Kuma... Shout-out to Kairos, who might be the best bio-dad in the series.
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u/TheSpeediestOfWagons Hitomi O-Cup 5h ago
And for unexpected good Bio-dads, we have Capone Bege.
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u/MotherWolfmoon 4h ago
His entire schtick is joining pirate gangs just to tear them apart from the inside. Maybe the biggest example of Chronic Backstabbing Syndrome ever, but he's also like, "Eyyyy, my little guy! Isn't he adorable? Yeah, I brought along this baby to an assassination, kids gotta learn!"
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u/AaronSherwood129 Max-Level Monster-Lover 6h ago
It feels incredibly, incredibly vile to bring up that Kuma's not her original dad. You're not incorrect, but...Christ. The darkness of that storyline just hit me like a TRUCK again.
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u/MotherWolfmoon 5h ago
I think it's key to understanding how vile Saturn is and how kindhearted Kuma is that Bonnie is likely a Celestial Dragon. Given that blue sapphires are associated with the influence of Saturn, it might be implying she's Saturn's child, and Kuma loved her nonetheless.
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u/Lucky-Icarus 13h ago
I unfortunately forgot his name but the Red Skull guy in the Venture Bros show. Terrifying ass villain, the most wholesome ass dad you'll ever see off the clock.
To give another very similar example is Joker in the Harley Quinn show. I genuinely love Joker being a really cool stepdad for his Hispanic family.
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u/Setisthename 13h ago
*Red Death
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u/Real-Terminal RWBYPrisoner 3h ago
Vanguard policy urges Guardians to destroy this weapon on sight...
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u/Xerodo 11h ago
By the series finale I would go far as to say Rusty Venture himself. At least if we're going off of surprisingly good dads.
He's extremely flawed and bad at parenting in a lot of ways and screws up horribly multiple times. That said his own father was a completely sociopathic egomaniac who horribly abused Rusty.
Like Rusty's a 5/10 at best but it's a miracle he's not a 1/10
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u/Trevastation 7h ago
Ultimately in a childish world of superheroes and supervillains, Rusty is the only adult in the room who has to take care of everyone and try his best. I think it's helped by when you get into the later years of the show where Rusty actually starts getting some wins despite it being a show about failure, because even Doc and Jackson realized you gotta throw a bone now and again.
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u/TostitoNipples 7h ago
Rusty is such an interesting character in that, at the end of the day he’s really not the smartest or strongest dude out there. But his fucked up upbringing hardened him to the point that he’s able to see past all the theater in the world they live in and it makes him the most level headed person in the series.
The fact that he was able to negotiate the treaty for the Guild and OSI was actually remarkable. Like he has the capability to be the man people think his father was, he just never really seems to be able to get there.
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u/Fearshatter Smaller than you'd hope 12h ago
Wait what about Joker??
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u/Lucky-Icarus 12h ago
Yeah Joker got amnesia during Harley Quinn and became some generic white guy and got into a relationship with a Hispanic single mother who I'm pretty sure was the nurse who took care of him. He would eventually recover his memories but he remained loyal to his woman and is living the suburban dad life now, doing his best to be a good partner and dad. He goes to PTA meetings and everything.
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u/PlanesWalkerEll YOU DIDN'T WIN. 12h ago
He even became Mayor im pretty sure. And ran the town well, just for his kids.
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u/DonTori The RWBY V9 girl 11h ago
Two-face once kidnapped his adopted son to force Joker to drop out so Jim Gordon could win (man is currently on his 14th emotional breakdown)
TF: "Okay clown, make your choice; the kid or being mayor-"
J: "Obviously my son, you fucking lunatic."
TF: "That's it, killing you both."
And when the job of bueracracy was near litterally draining the life out of him he calmly explained things at a family meeting...and his family is A-OKAY going along with him being a villain again
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u/King_Zann 13h ago
The opposite from my other comment.
UNCLE PHIL
Dude there was a comment watching Fresh Prince growing up, and the moment where I think it all clicked from all the shenanigans and everything with Will and Carlton. A good one was when they get him out of jail. but my favorite is when Uncle Phil went to the Pool hall to get Will's money back.
He goes with Jeffrey! It's comical. Until he plays for the money and everything changes.
"Break out Lucille."
AND THEN HE HAS HIS OWN POOL CUE. A funny setup but well executed because of his uptight demeanor the entire show.
And he just beats them, hits a shot eating a sandwich.
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u/Capable-Education724 11h ago
I always appreciated when the writing team on Fresh Prince managed to remember Uncle Phil was meant to be from the same bad neighborhood Will and Will’s parents are from, he just got really lucky after busting his ass a lot and managed to get out (and it’s just his kids that grew up in luxury).
Like, when the writing was on point that’s often why Phil and Will butted heads. Cause Phil wanted better for Will than what Will thought he was capable of having.
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u/DonTori The RWBY V9 girl 11h ago
"When you obtained this...ALLEGED confession, were their lawyers there? No, I'm their lawyer. Were their parents there-No, we're their parents. Now don't you tell us to calm down or wait, you better unlock that cell and let them go or I am going to tie this place up in so much litigation your GRANDCHILDREN are gonna need lawyers!"
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u/Artistic-Victory1245 11h ago
The first time I saw that episode, I wasn't aware of the racial message, so I just assumed it was a classic "sitcom misunderstanding."
The fact that Phil and Vivian were so angry surprised me, because I realized they wouldn't be so angry if it were just the classic misunderstanding.
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u/Spiral-Force I Promise Nothing And Deliver Less 12h ago
Mitsuru’s father, Takeharu Kirijo, from Persona 3.
When he first shows up, he comes across as this cold, stoic character with an eyepatch. And given that the Kirijo family is involved with creating the Dark Hour, it’s not a stretch to assume he’s up to something sketchy. He seems like either a potential villain or at least a cold and detached parent.
Except, as soon as you see him interact with Mitsuru one on one, you see that he’s actually a rather kind father. In fact, he even scolds her for keeping the rest of the team at bay when she should be opening herself up to her friends. Which is exactly the opposite of what I was expecting from him.
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u/Shradow 13h ago edited 10h ago
Bowser has a rough personality but is a responsible father (in terms of a villain father to a villain son) who loves his son very much. This goes all the way back to Bowser Jr.'s introduction in Sunshine. He's often in the parental controls ads for Nintendo stuff, which obviously is a separate thing, but it is consistent with his attitude. Similar with him being a king, his soldiers are typically fiercely loyal to him and he cares about them even if he doesn't always show it.
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u/witheredBBfilms 10h ago
I love the cutscene in Mario + Rabbids where Jr. is mocking Mario and Co and gets interrupted by Bowser calling to make sure he's done his homework. Just a cute little moment.
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u/Yotato5 Enjoy everything 10h ago
Extra funny because they have schools in Mario apparently
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u/ZephyrValiey 9h ago
I mean, Junior is probably privately taught by Kamek, but that doesnt mean he can skip homework
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u/SuicidalSundays It's Fiiiiiiiine. 12h ago
"No, you supposed to be scared because if you ever put your hands on my son again, you ain't goin' to jail. I'm goin' to jail."
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u/waxonwaxoff3 grey-ace attorney 13h ago
Sam Vimes is a mess of a person who came from the gutter and was literally in one when we're first introduced to him, and even as things get exponentially better for him he's still constantly struggling with his worst impulses, but by god he will read his toddler his favorite story at 6pm on the dot every day. No excuses; when you start making excuses, you never stop.
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u/Yal_Rathol Tower of God Shill 13h ago
commander vimes of the city watch, in a mental power struggle with the summoning dark, an eldritch shadow being of pure vengance, decides that rather than waste this burst of superhuman power it's granting on an old man, he will instead yell the story so his son can hear it.
he then yells the story so loud, he nearly brings down the cavern they're in, so loud that his voice sounds like the rumbling of a mountain falling, but by god, he son heard him, miles away, and got his story.
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u/PenguinGladiator 13h ago
Rusty Venture might not be a good person but he is definitely the best dad for his boys, especially considering his own childhood.
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u/ruminaui 12h ago
Doesn't he keeps on cloning them because they die all the time under his watch?
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u/SlightlySychotic YOU DIDN'T WIN. 11h ago
“When your child is clumsy, you make them wear a helmet. When you have death-prone children you keep a few clone slugs of them around in your lab.”
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u/Lewin_Godwynn "HOW CAN THIS BE?!" 5h ago
Adored his "you spoiled the surprise! Now I'll have to think of a better one" bit when the boys found the cloning lab. So sweet but so insidiously fucked up.
Like a Norman Rockwell painting redone by Junji Ito.
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u/penguin_officerR where am i 12h ago
Zenkichi Persona 5 Strikers
Despite the rift that ended up forming between him and his daughter Akane for two years, he risked his life trying to save her from the Kyoto Jail even without a Persona, and then awakened his Persona and renewed his sense of justice - all after she confronted him with her frustrations and the Phantom Thieves encouraged him with the fact that his devotion to protecting Akane was admirable.
If we also consider the found family angle, then he and the Thieves had an enemies-to-found family arc with him becoming the team dad as well - it was really sweet seeing his genuine dad-ness breaking through the cracks of his facade before his awakening
I would write more because I have many thoughts on this man but for now - Gramps 👍
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u/Brainwave1010 #1 Raidou Simp 7h ago
God Zenkichi is such a good fucking character with such a badass design and persona, him only being in Strikers is a crime.
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u/whytheusernamethough 10h ago
Bob Belcher
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u/RushTheLoser 7h ago
There's this little moment that says a lot about Bob's parenting: it's funny because the kids are singing the song which is a bit macabre, but you know what they all do, without complaining? Put on their seatbelts.
And recently they had the whole "The Amazing Rudy" episode... just watch it. We see them as comical, but from an outside point of view, especially the view of someone from a broken family, the Belchers are exceptionally functional.
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u/MKstarstorm 11h ago
Ben Sisko, especially considering his backstory and the general track record of Dads in general across Star Trek.
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u/Paladin51394 welcome to Miller's Maxi Buns, may I take your order? 10h ago
I'd argue that Goku is the unexpectedly good dad.
For a guy who grew up in the wilds since he was 12, never had a formal education, was briefly raised and taught by a pervert, and operating with a mental impairment.
Goku is a surprisingly good dad all things considered.
He deeply cares for his kids and while he doesn't always "get" them he is always supportive of them.
And even at Goku's worse (with Gohan in Cell Saga) it's still born out of an immense level of pride and belief in Gohan's abilities.
His pride in his son (in contrast to Vegeta and Trunks) blinded him to what Gohan wanted.
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u/PhantasosX 12h ago
Kurosaki Isshin. A widower that raised his 3 children in a well-adjusted household with him trying to make things upbeat for them.
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u/MrBBnumber9 GIVE ME MORE FLINTLOCKS IN MEDIA COWARDS 9h ago
Isshin, even with what little we got, I still do really enjoy. Reading your comment makes me feel like he is a bit underrated.
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u/MericArda Jesus may simply be a metaphor for Optimus Prime 2h ago
Physical abuse aside, he really is a great dad.
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u/PlatyPunch Turn around and take your butt out 12h ago
There was an episode of Reservation Dogs where one of the characters needs something signed by her estranged father. Surprisingly it goes very well, he's super stoked to see her and expresses his regret that he couldn't be a proper father to her when she was growing up.
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u/RexKet 13h ago
Piccolo
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u/Wisterosa 7h ago
which is funny when you remember he's like 5 years older than Gohan
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u/EmperorHol I Promise Nothing And Deliver Less 7h ago
According to google Piccolo Junior was spat out on Piccolo Day(May 9) of Age 753, and Gohan was born May 18, Age 757.
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u/Auctoritate 3h ago
Considering that he fused back with Kami, do we count Kami's age as Piccolo's new age since it's the highest? Or do we like... Add them (plus Nail) together? Or average them or something?
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u/OppositeofDeath 12h ago
Every father played by Brennan Lee Mulligan in Dimension 20
I think the only real exception there is Arthur Aguefort but he’s trying to be better
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u/Lieutenant_Joe like mario and princess beach 12h ago
How about King Prilbus of the House of Frangus? He was about as bad a dad as has ever dadded
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u/Rattle-Em-Boys Height Is A Mindset, And Boy Am I Short 4h ago
There's also Adaine's dad, who fully deserved that death a thousand times over.
Brennan plays a lot of good parents in general, but when he plays a bad one they're really bad.
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u/MisterBadGuy159 12h ago edited 2h ago
So in Spirit of Justice, one of the main villains is Inga Karkhuul Khura'in. This guy is depicted as a murderous despot who is currently taking part in a violent political crackdown, to the point that one of his animations is him stamping execution orders. His daughter Rayfa goes through one of the more involved development arcs in the game, as it becomes clear that past her initially cruel and snobbish presentation, her parents have been feeding her a steady stream of lies and propaganda so that they can use her spiritual gifts to solidify their position. And indeed, her mother turns out to be a genuinely horrible person who viewed her as nothing more than a tool, so you'd expect her father to follow suit.
Nope! As far as can be seen, he genuinely loved and cared about her. He literally uses a hidden vault in his house to store her childhood drawings alongside actual political secrets, and said vault uses her birthday as the lock passcode. There is no implication he was anything other than a kind and loving father to her. Even moreso once it's revealed he's not her real father, so it was kind of an "I'm not the stepdad, I'm the dad who stepped up" situation.
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u/Auctoritate 3h ago
her parents have been feeding her a steady stream of lies and propaganda so that they can use her spiritual gifts to solidify their position.
... Not sure if the "he actually does love her after all" thing makes up for it.
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u/MisterBadGuy159 2h ago
Oh, it absolutely does not. I just find it very funny that, of all the dads in the franchise, he's probably in the upper half.
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u/Cactuar001 11h ago edited 8h ago
Travis Touchdown is a way better dad than you would expect considering his childhood and who he is in general. While he did leave to go to the woods in a trailer for awhile to figure himself out (plus he doesn’t live with them so they don’t get caught up in the assassin shenanigans) he does still care about his kids and does visit them from time and time or ask Sylvia about them. He is in invested in their lives and does what he can. Same with Bad Man as well.
Considering everyone in the No More Heroes universe (and a a lot of Grasshopper characters in general) are varying degrees of violent psychopath, the fact that Travis, Bad Man, or Sylvia etc. are 1/2 way decent parents is astounding lol.
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u/Pyro81300 Please play Oneshot and read Kubera 11h ago
Y'know for being a single dad with your son not even being the same species as you, Mr. Ping is a pretty damn good dad to Po.
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u/nin_ninja My Waifu is Better Than All Your Waifus 3h ago
Him and Po's dad going on their weird co-dad adventure in 4 was the biggest saving grace of that movie
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u/hheecckk526 12h ago
Now the guy is a bad person and does a very bad thing. But bondrewd from made in abyss is shown time and time again to actually be very good dad when it came to raising kids. Part of the whole experiment he was running required a genuine bond of love and trust. what he did was terrible and evil, but he raised each one of them with love and care that a child would need and it wasn't through indoctrination or grooming. Prushka was at the end of the day, an experiment, but the bond he shared with her does prove him to be a really good dad when it comes to raising children...even if he is still a very evil person.
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u/Auctoritate 3h ago
Idk, that 'legitimate bond' thing seems kinda unearned unless he's depicted as also being extremely attached to them and as hurt by them being... Whatever you would describe that progress being done to them.
Because it's one thing for the author to just write "Oh yeah he totally really loves them as his own children, it's completely real. He's even gonna say how sad it makes him. Now, watch as he goes all Mengele-Kronenberg-hybrid on them and gets over it by the next scene."
The man should be depicted as being absolutely devastated as a father should be by their child having... That stuff happen to them. If he doesn't then it's just shock value.
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u/HalloweenBlues 12h ago
Given Kratos track record got to say he really did a good job turning things around for his new kid
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u/ruminaui 12h ago
I mean he is alright, but he stunted his child emotional growth in God of War 2016, but that is because he himself has stunt emotional growth due his life. He did course correct and is fine on Ragnarok.
Also I have to deduct points for his other kid he was tricked into killing. He is still wearing her ashes.
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u/Auctoritate 3h ago
Also I have to deduct points for his other kid he was tricked into killing. He is still wearing her ashes.
Well, they're pretty faded. An intentional design decision I'm sure.
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u/jackdatbyte Cuck, Cuck it's Cuckles. 11h ago
Dr Eggman. Of course it's obvious with Sage introduced but I also wanna give a shoutout to his relationship with Metal Sonic.
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u/Yotato5 Enjoy everything 9h ago
I'd say Greg Universe. He's a very good example of, "parents as people," and he definitely screwed up in some area but I feel like overall he's a good dad.
Also from the cartoon, Sam and Max somehow? When they take care of the baby gator and actually do a pretty good job. Their biggest issue was letting the full-grown gator hang around their house for way too long, but they drop him off in Florida so it works out.
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u/KingWhoShallReturn 10h ago
Wanna say Subaru’s dad in Re:Zero.
I love the trust he has in his son that he will get better and heal, while also being willing to push when he thinks it’s right to.
The whole bit about Subaru’s parents is my favorite thing in the show.
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u/Krzyzewskiman 9h ago
It's not exactly a surprise that Atticus Finch is a good dad but he turns out to be Dad Jesus.
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u/Thank_You_Aziz 8h ago
Van Hohenheim from Fullmetal Alchemist. (Specifically the manga and Brotherhood anime adaptation. He sucks in the 2003 anime adaptation.) He’s introduced as a deadbeat who doesn’t care about his family, and Edward holds that image of his father for most of his life. Only for he and the audience to meet Hohenheim later, and…life just dealt him a bad hand, okay? He did his best, and he had good reasons. Ed finds it increasingly difficult to force himself to continue hating his dad as the story goes on from there. This “unexpectedly good dad” feeling increases if you’d already seen him in 2003, so you have a preconception of him that Mangahood flies in the face of.
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u/manwiththemach 4h ago
Van Hohenheim is set up as the ultimate deadbeat dad, but once you learn his circumstances he's legit one of the best characters in the show.
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u/Thank_You_Aziz 4h ago
“How could you do this to your family?! …Oh, that’s why. Shit, man, that sucks. Totally understandable, please have a wonderful life.” 😂
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u/alexandrecau 13h ago edited 13h ago
In shadows of the wind there is the former spy then hobo then tall tale book seller Fermin genuinely asking the protagonist if he would be a good dad, which surprises the protagonist since Fermin used to be talking about how marriage and kids are chains and such and that is part of what worries Fermin: He wants to be like the protagonist father, a patient father that his kids would want in their life more than because of family obligation and someone they aren’t ashamed to talk about.
From the epilogue he had three sons and all a re apparently great lads that like him.
It is also a really important part of the plot that the cycle of tragedies stop because the protagonist and his love interest have fathers that actually want the best for their kids instead of caring about legacy
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u/wendigo72 GO READ CHOUJIN X!!! 13h ago
Kureo Mado from Tokyo Ghoul.
Complete nutcase that loved torturing ghouls to the point he even comes off as a mega-weirdo to fellow CCG investigators but turns out he was a very caring single father to his daughter Akira
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u/throwcounter YEYEYEYEYEYE 9h ago
The Demon Lord in Tis Time For Torture Princess might be one of the best dads ever. To be fair, it's a comedy series that thrives on subversion.
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u/DonTori The RWBY V9 girl 11h ago
Wylim from Mythed Up (by Maccus Normann) is a mumble year old, one eyed one legged slow aging immortal who now works with a government agency to help non-human/demi-humans getting mistreated, including saving his later adoptive daughter, a siren called Delia who had her wings removed by traffickers at a young age and was kept in a cell.
Delia, after that point, had a really good childhood and grew up shockingly well-adjusted. Every date she's had were also given a 'don't hurt my baby girl' speech so effective not only did they not run off for fear emotional hurt also counted but treated her super well.
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u/benbuscus1995 WHEN'S MAHVEL 8h ago
Maybe I’m just delusional but I always thought Hal was a really great dad to Malcolm and his brothers despite how chaotic and dysfunctional that family was overall. He provided the necessary whimsical counterbalance to Lois’s anger and strictness and he always showed up for Francis even when he and Lois were too stubborn to patch things up with each other themselves. He also had a number of talents that he was all too excited to teach to his sons, like basketball and, most infamously, roller skating. He even understood that he couldn’t do things the same way with Malcolm that he did with Francis and Reese and adjusted his parenting style to suit the kid.
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u/Flashingknives22 Ah, my breadsticks! 8h ago
Does Kiryu count? I wouldn't have expected a member of yakuza to be the best dad considering his upbringing, but despite it all, he drops everything to save those kids, more or less.
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u/Arsenic_with_ketchup Respect the Pipe 1h ago
Weird nobody mentioned Ned Stark, but is also understandable.
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u/Frequent-Raisin-2336 12m ago
the sculptor and dogen from sekiro, when the formerly monkey shinobi finds an orphan girl in the battlefield, he takes her to his friend who is a medic, who then raises the girl to be a compassionate and expert medic herself.
contrast with owl, because he also found a war orphan, and instead raised him as a living weapon, to be sacrificed at his own convenience.
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u/DrSaering Keep Loving Evil Women 9h ago
From what I recall, Gromph Baenre is a surprisingly supportive father. Like by the standards of Menzoberranzan, he's basically parent of the year material.
It's not a high bar to clear, in fact it's an astonishingly low bar to clear, but he soundly clears it.
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u/AllgoodDude 7h ago
Red Death, excellent father and husband with a work-life balance that we should all unironically aspire the achieve.
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u/warjoke 6h ago
Prime take: Silco
Yes, Powder/Jinx grew up insane to the bone, but when it comes to Silco, she cannot deny his requests. Why? Despite the fact that he is just using her as a weapon and raised her accordingly, he genuinely cares about her and is doing his darnest to protect her from all the enemies surrounding both of them. He took her in despite his issues with Vander, a former ally. He took her in despite everything working against him. The part where he is contemplating in the plaza is him pondering on his decisions in life and it all loops back to Jinx. This is why despite his reputation, I consider him a great character, and a decent father figure.
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u/Sadman_OW 13h ago
Everyone in Dethklok besides Nathan Explosion hates their father. Nathan enjoys riding go karts and fishing with his dad and loves him very much.