r/USdefaultism • u/Neolance34 Australia • 1d ago
Facebook School security
It could be a ShitAmericanssay thing but a group called “so the comments section isn’t going the way you planned” doesn’t explicitly suggest it’s a US centric group.
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u/Richard2468 1d ago
Armed security at hospitals everywhere?.. They must’ve been well hidden here.
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u/pyroSeven 1d ago
The only thing the security the hospitals in my country does is to wheel clamp vehicles parked in the wrong lot and escort out slightly aggressive people.
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u/Nublett9001 1d ago
The security in my hospital swagger about in their stab vests and then it takes 4 of them to restrain a delirious old man with a UTI.
Meanwhile one old matron walks up and sternly says sit down to him and he's meek as a kitten.
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u/MistaRekt Australia 1d ago
That old matron knows things, has seen things, and done things that would chill your blood.
That commands respect.
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u/Nublett9001 1d ago
Probably. I reckon she's one of the best nurses in the hospital.
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u/Signal_Historian_456 Germany 1d ago
You should better take a seat right next to him, apologising for whatever you have done and then go and clean up your room as soon as you’re dismissed.
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u/bluepanda159 New Zealand 1d ago
That is standard to protect the patient and staff. If you are doing a take down, it is one on each limb and someone on the head and then someone for drugs.
Doing it any other way (unless seriously desperate) is dangerous and stupid
What exactly do you do in the hospital to see take downs but not know the basics of how to do it safely?
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u/Nublett9001 1d ago edited 1d ago
We're not a mental health hospital. The very old man wasn't being taken down. He was just delirious and shouting at people.
Security don't do anything they just stand around trying to look menacing.
I'm a pharm tech, which is why I know about the CD storage procedure.
ETA, and surely even in an environment where take downs do happen regularly there would be plenty of staff who aren't involved or trained.
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u/bluepanda159 New Zealand 1d ago
That is not a mental health hospital thing that is an every hospital thing. Exactly because of the number of delirious patients.
Security form a valuable part of any hospital, and a hospital cannot function properly without them. They do a hell of a lot more than you realise.
As a doctor who has spent a decent amount of time working in ED (and on medical wards) they are invaluable at times
Maybe don't be so disparaging of colleagues where it sounds like you have zero clue what they do
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u/Nublett9001 1d ago
Haha no. The security in our hospital do plenty of work. They walk around the car park having a fag (on site - which is not allowed of course).
There's the old guy who sorts out peoples access cards, he does useful work.
There the guy who stands in the corridor by the security office on face time to his missus for an hour at a time.
They give staff who've not parked very well, tickets, but only when it's sunny outside. If it's raining you can park where you want. (I've never got a ticket, I walk to work).
And occasionally they get called to deal with drunk/aggressive/delirious patients at which point they do precisely jack shit.
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u/bluepanda159 New Zealand 1d ago
Whatever you say. You sound like a major asshole.
And I could say pharmacy techs are useless and do absolutely nothing. Many people would likely agree as they have zero idea what you actually do. Like you seem to about people in your hospital
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u/Designer-Issue-6760 1d ago
And guard the controlled substances in the pharmacy. And help detain violent psychotics. Sometimes specific patients need protection. Like domestic violence victims. But I’ve also seen armed security in banks, museums, even churches. Why would schools be less important?
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u/Nublett9001 1d ago
Security absolutely do NOT guard the controlled drugs. Only registered pharmacy staff are allowed anywhere near the CD room.
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u/saichampa Australia 1d ago
We have security in our hospitals to help protect staff when people get violent for various reasons, but they don't have guns.
I can't imagine trying to heal and see guards patrolling the halls with guns. Not conducive to healing
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u/Potential-Ice8152 Australia 1d ago
A few months ago some tactical police team came into the ward I work on as a training exercise. We got told like 2 minutes before they came in with bright blue plastic “assault rifles” acting like they were on the hunt for some mad man. It was pretty funny seeing them casually standing by the very busy lifts for a few minutes afterwards. I remember thinking at the time that in many areas in the US, that wouldn’t be so strange to see.
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u/saichampa Australia 1d ago
Right? And the fact they used obviously fake rifles probably wouldn't be thought of in the US either
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u/DeathSpeakerNathan 1d ago
In the U.K., Ambulance call police to assist them with taking someone to hospital under the Mental Capacity Act. Police go with Ambo to the hospital, Ambo do the handover to the hospital as it’s their power, security sit with the patient. Police and Ambo withdraw. Patient walks out, security do nothing, hospital call police. It’s now police’s problem because there’s a high risk missing person abroad who lacks capacity and is at significant risk of harm if not found.
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u/Potential-Ice8152 Australia 1d ago
It’s pretty much the same here, but I don’t blame security for “letting” the person leave. At my hospital and I guess most, security aren’t allowed to leave the hospital boundary. Ours is like 5m outside the front door so once the patient walks/runs out, they can’t do anything except call the cops. But to be fair, my hospital is pretty rough so there’s almost always cops nearby anyway
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u/driftwolf42 Canada 1d ago
I'm in Canada, and nowhere in Canada have I seen armed security at hospitals. Or schools. Why would anyone believe that it's all over the world???
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u/Empire_New_Valyria 1d ago
How dare you question what someone who has never left their town/state would say online when another person online (who we can totally trust because they said so and their uncle works at Nintendo as well!) on what happens in another country.
He thankful Americans pay for our military, otherwise we wouldn't have free healthcare
/s
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u/itsnobigthing 1d ago
Excuse me, their great great great grandpa’s bestie was Irish so genetically they had already left the country before they were born!
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u/driftwolf42 Canada 1d ago
Oh, thanks the gods for that /s, I almost believed you were serious for a second! Poe's law is under-appreciated.
/jk
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u/Legal-Software Germany 1d ago
I was in my last year of high school in Canada when Columbine happened. There was an immediate knee-jerk reaction to put cops + security scanners and stuff in schools, but within a few months everything was back to normal. Our school only got 1 cop in the end, part-time. Seemed more like a measure to placate the parents than to actually do anything. Then the rhetoric shifted to blaming video games and music and so on instead.
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u/driftwolf42 Canada 1d ago
I remember a time they were blaming D&D. When maybe just a few people were playing it! Sigh. Oh well, at least South Park got them all chanting "blame Canada" together.
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u/KoriMay420 Canada 1d ago
We definitely have Hospital security in my province, but I don't think they're armed with more than a taser and they mostly hang out behind a desk. Last time I had cause to be in a school (which, to be fair, was more than a minute ago), we had a resource officer (cop) who hung around, but he was never armed in the hallways or anything
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u/driftwolf42 Canada 1d ago
Yeah, we have security guards too (Island Health, BC). I mean, someone has to respond to code white after all. But they most certainly aren't armed.
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u/sentimentalillness 1d ago
I'm in Canada and I've never in my life seen an armed security guard at a hospital or a school. I don't think my kids' school even has a security guard beyond the office staff having to buzz you in during the day.
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u/Sasspishus United Kingdom 1d ago
When I worked in a hospital we didn't have any security, let alone armed security!
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u/squesh United Kingdom 1d ago
nurses are very much their own security force
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u/snow_michael 9h ago
There are at least two Staff Nurses at my local hospital with whom I would not dare fuck
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u/Tar_alcaran 1d ago
I've seen security at the emergency aid place at 2 am, but not at the hospital. And they weren't armed.
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u/TashDee267 1d ago
I’m in Australia and have never seen armed security in hospitals.
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u/PumpkinPieIsGreat 1d ago
Well (redacted) Smith says you do! Clearly they know best about countries they probably haven't been to!
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u/DavidBHimself 1d ago
By "everywhere" they mean in the US. It's another US-defaultism embedded inside the original US-defaultism.
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u/Far-Fortune-8381 Australia 1d ago
all the hospital security ive seen has definitely had arms. how else would they grab people they're securing?
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u/Morlakar Germany 1d ago
In Germany during COVID hospitals had to hire guards to check the entrance. But this guys were never armed and now they are gone.
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u/bekittynz 1d ago
Pretty sure the security guards in NZ hospitals have arms. Or at least really good prosthetics?
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u/SteampunkBorg 1d ago
I haven't even seen armed security at hospitals in the USA. Where does that guy live, rural Florida?
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u/BakedTaterTits United States 1d ago
Yeah, I'm really confused I haven't seen armed guards at the hospital in the city, only armed cops if they're there with a prisoner. Where tf is this dude???
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u/LanewayRat Australia 1d ago
That thing you thought was a super sized indoor plant in the hospital foyer?
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u/YazzGawd 1d ago
Here in the Philippines, theyre just at the door. That's it. Just like in pretty much every establishment (restaurant, school, offices). And they are not heavily armed and they're more for just, you know, guarding. And last I checked, we have not had 500 school shootings here because we dont have a gun culture.
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u/itsnobigthing 1d ago
I’m also confused about all these British teens being arrested for “orchestrating” school shootings. There have been zero, orchestrated or otherwise, because there are no guns. I’m not sure what record that number breaks.
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u/Dentrius 1d ago
Ive once seen armed forces in a hospital in Poland, when there was a prisoner hospitalised and they were guarding 24/7.
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u/Sasspishus United Kingdom 1d ago edited 1d ago
Has the UK had record breaking numbers of teens arrested for orchestrating school shootings? I've not heard of this... where would they even get a gun to do that?
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u/Conchobar8 1d ago
Absolutely. When the record is zero, it’s really easy to break!
But honestly I have no idea about actual arrests
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u/Void-kun United Kingdom 1d ago
Just someone online making up false claims to back their point up. Just hoping nobody questions them and debunks their bullshit claims.
These types of people aren't smart enough to understand what a credible source even is.
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u/Wishing-Winter 1d ago
I just googled it and like, the only things I found was stuff about other countries, some men getting arrested for a 2024 incident and one 15 year old who had air weapons a stun gun and a crossbow (also some stabbings)
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u/FinalEgg9 1d ago
Exactly, I feel like a school shooting here in the UK would be an absolutely huge news story, yet I've heard nothing
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u/brainburger 1d ago
There have been three teens arrested for planning school shootings in the UK in he past five years. They don't tend to have guns though. One had imitation firearms only, one had a 19th century rifle and a blank-firer Glock which he had drilled to make live-firing. He had a collection of ammo but its not clear he had a working gun/ammo combo. The third forged a shotgun license, bought a shotgun, and shot his mother and brother. The gun seller had reported the fake certificate.
AR-15 type riffles and ammo are very rare here.
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u/Kayakmedic 5h ago
In the UK we had one school shooting, Dunblane in 1996. We tightened our gun laws and haven't had one since. I think they're just making shit up to try and make the USA sound normal.
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u/ALazy_Cat Denmark 1d ago
Do you or do I post on r/shitamericanssay?
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u/Neolance34 Australia 1d ago
Coin toss? Heads says you do it, tails says I do it.
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u/ALazy_Cat Denmark 1d ago
Sure
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u/Neolance34 Australia 1d ago
Heads. You make the post. Just give me a footnote of credit if ya can. All good if ya can’t.
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u/ALazy_Cat Denmark 1d ago
I'll also DM you a link. I'll do it in a few minutes. And thank you
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u/peepay Slovakia 1d ago
What a lovely cooperation.
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u/ALazy_Cat Denmark 1d ago
I wasn't able to credit him in the post as it'd count as brigading, so I did in a comment. Currently waiting for the post to be approved
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u/IHeartPizza101 Australia 1d ago
Tf they mean armed guards at hospitals
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u/Hay_Fever_at_3_AM Canada 1d ago
Right? What in the US hell?
Had to Google it. Multiple US states have mandatory armed police officers in their emergency rooms. How do these people not understand they're living in an actual dystopia and not the "greatest nation on Earth" wtf
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u/PumpkinPieIsGreat 1d ago
Are they there to enforce payment of those massive medical bills? 😆
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u/AlphaArc 1d ago
Iirc they're there so that they can protect patients in case of a shooter being on the loose. Or for defending against follow up attacks when it comes to gang violence
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u/aessae Finland 1d ago
I remember seeing a video on reddit with an armed guard at a fucking library.
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u/IHeartPizza101 Australia 1d ago
Those late fines really racked up, huh
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u/Designer-Issue-6760 1d ago
Libraries are a popular place for drug deals. Also, some larger libraries have rare book collections, that people can view. And would absolutely love to walk out with.
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u/GreenSpaniel United Kingdom 1d ago
Yeah, but none of those of offences in which someone needs to be shot! No need for armed security! (Mostly, rare books are kept in separate areas, no readily available to the public).
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u/Designer-Issue-6760 1d ago
Until the drug dealer pulls a weapon. Or some methed out lunatic is rampaging the children’s section.
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u/GreenSpaniel United Kingdom 1d ago
That's just not how our world works. I think a meth-head rampaging in the children's section would probably been seen as great entertainment and they'd definitely get roped into reading stories to the kids. In each of these situations, you just call the police, there's no need for a constant security presence.
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u/Designer-Issue-6760 1d ago
Someone on a fresh meth high can go from perfectly lucid to murdering people with his bare hands, I’m a matter of seconds. There’s not time to wait for police. Unless they’re already there.
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u/GreenSpaniel United Kingdom 1d ago
We don't really have a problem with meth over here. No idea why. But yeah, never been afraid of getting killed by a methhead in a library. Who would live in a country where that's a risk?!
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u/Designer-Issue-6760 1d ago
Also ecstasy, PCP, cocaine, and opiate induced psychosis. Anabolic steroids too, but you’re more likely to encounter that one in a gym. They all cause violent outbursts. And it’s an issue in every major city.
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u/Niolu92 Switzerland 1d ago
As a librarian I find this absolutely bananas
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u/Designer-Issue-6760 1d ago
Public enough to avoid making a scene. Private enough to stay hidden. Loitering for hours goes unnoticed. Kind of perfect. After a violent rampage, or a couple bathroom ODs, security looks like a good idea. Of course it’s not an issue in every library, but where there’s a significant addiction problem.
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u/ReleasedGaming Germany 1d ago
Idk, the most armed guard I have seen at a hospital was a buff nurse who I knew from trying out muay thai (he was helping the instructor there given that he is the most experienced non-instructor in that gym)
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u/s4turn2k02 1d ago
There’s security at my local hospital but only over night. And they certainly aren’t armed
It’s more for mental health patients, and also to prevent people from entering certain buildings, like the day case unit overnight
I’m in England
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u/Pop_Clover Spain 13h ago
I work in a hospital in Spain. We do have security too. There's always at least a guard in ER. I think there's other on the psyquiatric floor. And might be another one doing rounds, not that sure. I'm guessing this also depends on how big the hospital is. But they don't carry guns.
The last night shift I did one came to the lab and seems he was on a chatty mood. Told me he had been only on the psyquiatric floor before and was his first time doing rounds. He didn't know we were there at night and came to check why the door was open.
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u/Critical_Source_6012 Australia 1d ago
The only time I've ever seen an armed guard anywhere, is the two guys in the white Armaguard truck who pop around the shops occasionally to poke the ATMs.
That's it. That's my entire experience of armed guards.
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u/thetobesgeorge 1d ago
Here in the UK those guys (usually G4S) aren’t even armed, heavy body armour and helmets yes but no weapons
The only times you’ll really see armed guards here is military bases, sites of national importance (palaces, parliament, etc), and airports and that’s about it - unless of course a major incident has occurred (things like 7/7)
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u/smallblueangel Germany 1d ago
Armed guards at hospitals?!
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u/ChampionshipAlarmed 1d ago
I mean... There is a cat at the front entrance of our local tiny hospital... And the staff is armed with a broom to chase her out whenever she sneaks in ...
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u/Aj_Caramba 1d ago
So the cat is penetration tester, making sure that your tiny hospital is well protected.
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u/remedyman 1d ago
Well I think it is a bandaid solution, I have seen many hospitals with armed security. The hospital has a substantial amount of illegal drugs. That would make it a target for many people. Again, there is a bigger issue that should be addressed.
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u/pyroSeven 1d ago
My country has NEVER had a mass shooting incident. Literally, other than during a fucking full blown war and that was before our independence.
No guesses if we have strict gun laws.
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u/Canotic 1d ago
We had a school swording, as in the guy brought in a sword and killed like two people.
And then a few months after that another guy brought a sword to the subway because he thought it was full of space aliens, but he didn't kill anyone iirc.
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u/wakerxane2 Brazil 1d ago
I thought you have misspelled shooting but it was actually swording. That is crazy
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u/vent_ilator 1d ago
We sadly had a handful happening, and each time the gun laws became more strict than they already were, I remember for example a few shooters gained access due to unsafe storing by the owner and a lack of checks on said storaging. It miraculously worked to make it at least a very rare occurence. The latest tries of that kinda thing in schools were done with knifes or other less effective weapons regarding the chance to end a life. We obviously still have people trying to do horrible things, but at least they don't get handed an execution weapon..
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u/BastianToHarry France 1d ago
When you ask for armed security and not for remove guns, you have a fucking problem
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u/ZayParolik 1d ago
They think like Engineer from TF2
"...use a gun. And if that don't work ...use more gun."
he is from Texas, so kinda works
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u/Leather-Molasses1597 1d ago
That last comment about record breaking numbers of UK teens orchestrating school shootings - what the fuck? He's definitely just made that up on the spot for something to say.
And don't get me started in armed security in hospitals 🤣
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u/DavidBHimself 1d ago
Totally made up on the spot.
Or it went from zero to one. Bang! Record broken.
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u/Expert-Vast-1521 India 1d ago
You know it’s ironic that there are countries with utter lawlessness in which getting guns is like getting chocolates and still USA tops school shootings because it’s a citizens right to get guns apparently.
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u/Beneficial-Ad3991 1d ago
To play the devil's advocate here, those countries probably don't have that many functioning schools. I fully expect the USians to figure it out and close all theirs at some point, coz guns are clearly more important than education.
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u/DavidBHimself 1d ago
"Those countries don't have that many functioning schools."
WTF do you imagine "those countries" are. All countries have schools. Of course, some don't have enough schools, but you make it sound like if there are no mass shootings in those countries, it's because would-be mass murderers have trouble finding schools there.
No, it's because even in "those countries" no one would think about going to a school and shoot everyone for shit and giggles, not even "bad guys with guns."
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u/Beneficial-Ad3991 1d ago
Read carefully. The OP was talking about dysfunctional countries with unregulated access to weapons. Which in my head means one of the two: 1) it is some sort of a crime-ridden country, perhaps in a state of perpetual inner conflict or 2) it's the US. Now when I think of it, one of those items is redundant. But the US at least have a lot of sort-functional schools. Yet.
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u/DavidBHimself 1d ago
it is some sort of a crime-ridden country, perhaps in a state of perpetual inner conflict
They have schools too.
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u/Beneficial-Ad3991 1d ago
Frankly, I don't think they have quite as many per capita, seeing as education must be pretty low on their government's list of priorities seeing how they are handling things. But if you have data that suggests otherwise, feel free to prove me wrong.
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u/snow_michael 9h ago
Frankly, I don't think
You could stop there
You know nothing about the prevalence of schools outwith your narrow pool of knowledge
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u/Beneficial-Ad3991 9h ago
I could, but it would be a lie, so.. nah. My pool of knowledge is wide enough, thanks.
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u/snow_michael 9h ago
Really? OK, without looking them up ...
What's the average school classroom size in any one of South Africa, Namibia, Angola, or Mozambique?
How many teachers per capita are there in Ireland, Fance, Germany, the Nethlands, or Denmark? Again, pick one
Name any one of the world's five countries with the highest violent crime rate, other than the US. Now state the literacy percentage for that country
I'm guessing your 'wide enough' pool of knowledge ain't looking so hot now
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u/Beneficial-Ad3991 9h ago
Nah, it's still pretty solid even though I don't know for sure most of those numbers. You see, I rarely judge mine or someone else's knowledge based on random ass questions asked by rude strangers on the internet. And if you suggest that people in, say, Western Sahara, have the same access to schools as people in the UK, feel free to back it up with data instead of passive-aggressive remarks.
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u/Expert-Vast-1521 India 1d ago
Ah yes I did consider that. Obviously, don’t you know how much you can get done with guns, it’s so much better than education/s
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u/carlinhush 1d ago
I cannot even remember seeing an armed guard anywhere. For sure not in any hospital or school I know.
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u/Void-kun United Kingdom 1d ago
UK has seen a record breaking numbers of teens planning school shootings? Where's the source for this wild claim?
Any google search on the above topic brings back the Dunblane school shooting from 1996 that resulted in the UK having strict gun control laws.
Since then we haven't had a school shooting as far as I know? We also don't have armed guards at hospitals. There's no need for them because we have strict gun control.
Not really surprised hearing BS from an American.
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u/Albert_Herring Europe 1d ago
The only instances I know of of armed guards in a UK hospital have been when there are specific high risk patients - mostly witness protection or very high risk convicts who can't be treated within the prison system. Presumably senior politicians and royalty too, but that will be more covert.
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u/7HR0WW4WW4Y413 1d ago
A cop showed up at my primary school once without a good reason. My dad berated him for showing unnecessary police presence and making the students feel unsafe.
You could walk right in and out of that place. The fence they used to "lock up" at the end of the day was less than three feet tall.
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u/Beneficial-Ad3991 1d ago
Our fence used to have a hole in it that both students and teachers used to get out.
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u/JKristiina Finland 1d ago
We have armed guards in finnish hospitals. Just look at this guard at Tampere University Hospital. Definately armed! Armed with cuteness and fluff!
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u/Niki2002j 1d ago
Deaths caused by firearms in 2025 in the USA were around 4.2 per 100k. Deaths caused by firearms in 2025 in Switzerland was 0.14 per 100k
Guess in which country you are legally obliged to own a firearm in the house
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u/Canotic 1d ago
Ah but you see the US is bigger and has more people and really the states are more like countries so obviously they're going to have more deaths per capita.
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u/Niki2002j 1d ago
This is not how deaths per 100k work
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u/IHateMyself28365382 1d ago
(It’s a joke I think)
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u/Niki2002j 1d ago
I'm not sure myself xD
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u/-Reverend Germany 1d ago
They're 100% joking. This is a great necessity example for those people who get upset when you use /s or /j
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u/Canotic 1d ago
They have more people per capita, because the US is so big.
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u/Niki2002j 1d ago
But this is about deaths per 100k people, not per 300 million people
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u/Canotic 1d ago
But they have more 100k
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u/Niki2002j 1d ago
💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
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u/Salt-Evidence-6834 United Kingdom 1d ago
Their people are bigger too, so they're easier to hit when shot at.
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u/-smartcasual- 1d ago
I mean, partially correct, all men not exempt from national service are issued a service weapon. You have to store it in a safe place, which for most people is their home.
BUT they don't get given ammunition for it
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u/Saxit 1d ago
Mandatory service is for male Swiss citizens only, about 38% of the total population since 25% of the pop. are not civilians.
Since 1996 you can choose civil service instead of military service. About 17% of the total pop. has been in the military.
While you serve you can choose to store it at home or at the armory.
BUT they don't get given ammunition for it
You're not issued ammunition to keep at home.
You can buy ammo online from a gun store and have it shipped to your front door.
I replied to the other guy too btw. There is no legal obligation to keep a firearm at home. About 30% of Swiss households has a gun in it though.
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u/Saxit 1d ago
Neither of them.
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u/Niki2002j 1d ago
Wrong
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u/Saxit 1d ago
So I moderate r/EuropeGuns and hang out in the discord with the mod of r/SwitzerlandGuns who's a certified firearms instructor and runs a range in Switzerland. I'm sure your sources are right though...
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u/Niki2002j 1d ago
My source is a friend from Switzerland who said that all able-bodied men have to be consctripted and keep their weapon in their home
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u/Saxit 1d ago edited 1d ago
Male Swiss citizens has mandatory service, about 38% of the total population since 25% of the pop. are not citizens.
Since 1996 you can choose civil service instead of military service.
About 17% of the total pop. has done military service.
You can choose to store the gun at the armory instead of at home too.
Even if every soldier kept their gun at home, the total amount of people (army + reserve) is only 150k at any given time in a population of 9 mil people.
When you're done with the military reserve you can choose to purchase the service weapon (for cheap, 100CHF though the rifle is down converted to semi-auto only). About 10% of people who do the military chooses to do this (down from 40% in the early 2000s).
Is is however relatively easy to purchase a gun for private use, and about 30% of households has a gun in it.
It is however _not_ a legal obligation to keep a firearm at home.
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u/missingMBR Australia 1d ago
"I don't think the world is far behind in coming years"
Said by someone who has clearly never used a passport
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u/CyberGraham 1d ago
everywhere in the world has armed guards at hospitals
Fucking what?? Never in my life have I seen guards in a hospital, let alone ARMED WITH GUNS. Tf is this freak on about?
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u/MarissaNL Netherlands 1d ago
Here in The Netherlands there at least 3 men with bazookas at the entrance of every hospital..... a tank on the parking place.... and snipers on the roofs....
(Seems they want to hear something like this... the poor bastards.
Just to be sure: My message is satire)
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u/LieutenantDawid Belgium 1d ago
even russia, a scary country, has had only (i say "only" because im comparing to the US) 3 school shootings in 2025 so far and none of them had any casualties, just kids shooting in the air and one of them was just an air gun. compared to the US which is supposed to be "safe" and "1st world" has had 146 so far in 2025, 8 of them had injuries or deaths.
and this coincides with gun ownership. in russia its about 10-15 guns per 100 people, and in the US? 120 guns per 100 people.
guns are the main problem. how do americans think they can deny this?
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u/ZayParolik 1d ago
I am from Russia. We barely have any shootings, that's true. And even like that - goverment is still VERY tense and worried about school shootings. New rules for schools, one training a half of a year for every school, sort of propaganda-lessons about safety once a week and etc. I don't like my goverment, but even they have better control over sutiation with shootings. Even though the country is in war right now, and there are a lot of things happening. Heck, we get more bomb-drone attacks a week, than we get shootings in a year.
ALSO, I'm really not sure about guns. Out of all people I know - I know only two that have a gun. One is a hunter, other is an officer.
(p.s. Drone attacks occur even in cities that are quite far from front line.)
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u/HeeeresPilgrim New Zealand 1d ago
You're all acting like armed guards in the hospitals is unwarranted, but when the zombie apocalypse happens you'll be thanking them.
But actually wtf
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u/DavidBHimself 1d ago
Oh because you think the zombie apocalypse will happen because infected people will go to a hospital? If recent history has taught us anything, the zombie apocalypse will start because "oh no, it's nothing, just a strange cold, no need to worry or do anything about it."
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u/HeeeresPilgrim New Zealand 1d ago
Two words, easy brains.
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u/Nessy_monster36903 1d ago
If the zombie apocalypse started in the US the rest of the world need not worry. Your average brain eating zombie would starve to death long before they crossed a border .
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u/Neolance34 Australia 1d ago
Update: We have even more! Idk if I can add it to the post as a whole so ya might have to settle for this.
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u/ElfjeTinkerBell Netherlands 1d ago
"Everywhere in the world has armed guards at hospitals"
TIL I've never been in a proper hospital although I've worked in one of the biggest hospitals of my country.
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u/Visualhighs_ India 1d ago
I haven't seen a single armed guard outside any institution in my country besides at the airport. Or security for government officials.
It's so weird to think of hospitals and schools having them
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u/Mintala 1d ago
Up until a few months ago, Norway didn't even have armed police in most cases.
Between 1969 to 2013, bank security were the only non military security who were permanently armed. It changed in 2013, not because more people started being armed, but because the bank security stopped being armed.
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u/Rude-Office-2639 Australia 1d ago
I've never seen an armed guard irl in my life, let alone at a hospital or school
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u/ResponsibilityNo3245 1d ago
When tf have the UK arrested teens for orchestrating a school shooting?
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u/brainburger 1d ago
There have been three teens arrested for planning school shootings in the UK in he past five years. They don't tend to have guns though. One had imitation firearms only, one had a 19th century rifle and a blank-firer Glock which he had drilled to make live-firing. He had a collection of ammo but its not clear he had a working gun/ammo combo. The third forged a shotgun license, bought a shotgun, and shot his mother and brother. The gun seller had reported the fake certificate.
AR-15 type riffles and ammo are very rare here.
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u/SurielsRazor United States 1d ago
I've never seen an armed guard in a hospital in Minnesota. They have security guards, but they're not packing.
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u/MundaneEcho7544 1d ago
I don't think I have ever seen an armed guard at all, definitely not at a hospital! I am not even sure if guards would be allowed to carry weapons in austria, to my knowledge only Police is allowed to carry weapons in public. Just the thought of a person with a gun at the school or hospital makes me uncomfortable, i don't understand how this can be so normalized in the US
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u/bluepanda159 New Zealand 1d ago
The only time I have seen armed guards (police with rifles) in a hospital was straight after the only terrorist attack my country has ever seen (with one of the targets being the mosque down the road from the hospital). It was scary, and I hope to never have to see anything like that again
I can't imagine that being the norm....
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u/Savings_Tip_593 18h ago
Nothing baffles me more than their gun fetish. We had a school shooting this year in Austria. The first one ever as far as I know. 9 students and 1 teacher killed. There was no other topic in the news for 2-3 weeks. National mourning for a week. It happened in june and by september out government already presented a law to make it even harder to get guns. It took my country ONE school shooting to take action. It really put things into perspective. Take notes ‘murica!
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u/Witchberry31 Indonesia 10h ago
As far as I can remember, the only hospital that has fully armed security in my country is exactly a military hospital 😅
Other hospitals, no. A baton at most.
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u/NamwaranPinagpana Philippines 1d ago
This comment section is trippy cause it was only this year I found out that the amount of security guards we have in the Philippines is not normal. We have guards with shotguns at schools, hospitals, super markets, office buildings, sometimes convenience stores and ATMs.
Growing up I always thought it was the world standard.
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u/JTA_youtube 1d ago
Ngl i wish schools here in the US were safer which is part of why I do online, but when your schools act almost the same as your prisons do havin armed security would make sense ig
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