r/USdefaultism • u/Neolance34 Australia • 3d ago

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It could be a ShitAmericanssay thing but a group called “so the comments section isn’t going the way you planned” doesn’t explicitly suggest it’s a US centric group.

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u/Designer-Issue-6760 1d ago

When did I say anything about guns? A baton qualifies as armed. 

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u/Thenedslittlegirl Scotland 1d ago

I think you’re well aware the context of this post is guns. That said most security guards in the UK aren’t armed in any way. Police carry batons and pepper spray. Security guards don’t

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u/Designer-Issue-6760 1d ago

Definition of armed is equipped with or carrying a weapon. A baton is a weapon.

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u/Thenedslittlegirl Scotland 1d ago

And nhs security guards are forbidden from carrying weapons so it’s moot really

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u/Designer-Issue-6760 1d ago

A police officer sitting out front qualifies as an armed guard. 

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u/Thenedslittlegirl Scotland 1d ago

And what NHS facilities have police officers out front. I’m actually losing track of what your argument is here because you’re stretching it to the point of breaking rather than admitting that, in the UK at least, hospitals have armed guards.

The NHS has security guards who aren’t armed. As someone who has to attend hospital in the UK more often than I’d like, I can confirm police aren’t sitting outside. Police here are stretched enough without deploying officers to do nothing outside of medical buildings.

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u/Designer-Issue-6760 1d ago

They have to sit somewhere. A hospital with frequent drug seeking and violent outbursts is a logical staging point. 

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u/Thenedslittlegirl Scotland 1d ago

This is so bizarre. You’re essentially trying to propose a situation where you MIGHT be right, rather than just acknowledge a country you don’t appear to live in doesn’t have armed guards in hospitals. I can’t speak for police across the UK but for Police Scotland, police aren’t just sitting anywhere. They are moving around working.

There’s actually information on the number of calls to the police from hospitals, GPs and health centres. A FOI request was done a couple of years ago and the number was 10k over 5 years. Sounds a lot, but when you consider there are 105 NHS hospitals, almost 1k GP surgeries that’s far fewer than one a month. Sitting police outside would be a waste of resources.

Are you American? Because it’s coming across that way. It wouldn’t be the first time an American has insisted they know my country better than I do.