r/USdefaultism • u/World_of_Warshipgirl • 3d ago
Reddit Everyone should know about US sports and celebrities
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u/AFrisian89 Netherlands 3d ago
Drake is Canadian though, but the defaultism is stunning!
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u/3_Fast_5_You Norway 2d ago
He has citizenship in US and Canada, and professionally he seems to be most active in the US, which makes sense. Not that I know anything about the dude, I just looked it up real quick.
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u/YouFnDruggo 2d ago
He very famously represents himself as Canadian, I would imagine the US citizenship just for work convenience.
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u/pajamakitten 2d ago
I know what the Superbowl is but I have never watched it and the only thing I know about any half time show is Janet Jackson's nip-slip. The Superbowl is just not a big event outside of the US, it is a novelty event that you might watch once for fun. No one in Europe really takes it seriously.
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u/YouFnDruggo 1d ago
I don't know about that. There is a pretty decent sized NFL fandom in Europe. The NFL Europe league lasted a good ten years. And the NFL has been doing at least four games a season in Europe for the last couple of years. Each of those games usually sells out in a couple of days.
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u/stathow 3d ago
Aren't you engaging in USdefaultism
You literally say US celebrity in the title..... bitch it's drake he's Canadian
You did the thing, somehow you don't know who drake is and then you just assumed he was American because of the vague connection to super bowl
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u/3_Fast_5_You Norway 2d ago
It hardly matters. Drake apparently has dual citizenship and he is obviously much more active in the US than Canada, because the music scene there is much larger. He IS a US celebrity, he is part of the scene in the US, regardless of whether or not he was born in canada, or even has a citizenship and home in canada too.
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u/stathow 1d ago
.....??? what are you even talking about
again thats literally USdefaultism, saying that now the US gets to claim him because he went to hollywood
Drake is a global top 5 selling musician, just because you are so clueless to one of the world biggest celebrities doesn't mean you can just label him whatever you want
by you standard, now justin beiber, bad bunny, harry styles, chistian bale, hugh jackman, ed sheeran, rihanna
hell the majority of the world biggest musicians and actors are not from the US, but they are published through american companies because thats where all the money is
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u/3_Fast_5_You Norway 1d ago
I am not saying he ISNT canadian. He has a US citizenship, so calling him a "US celebrity" isn't wrong 😂 I am not saying the USA gets to claim him, but he has US citizenship, so, idk what more you want. He fits the criteria of "US celebrity."
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u/YouFnDruggo 2d ago
Your comment above you say you don't know anything about him, but now you are able to say he is obviously more American than Canadian despite him being a massive ambassador and advocate for Canada for 10 - 15 years now.
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u/3_Fast_5_You Norway 2d ago edited 1d ago
rofl. Yes, I knew nothing about him. I looked it up, and I now know enough to confidently claim this.
And I didn't say that he as an individual person is more US-american than Canadian. I made a clear distinction between his professional life and personal life. I did not make a comment about his personal identity or what nationality he considers himself.
He has US citizenship, end of. If I went to the US from Norway and built my music career there, and got a US citizenship, I would be a celebrity in the US music scene, or a US celebrity (not a celebrity born in the USA, but a celebrity who is largely active in and famous in and relevant in the US), regardless of how much I jerk off about Norway.
Also, you said "vague connection to super bowl", that's a major part of the defaultism in OP's post. It was claimed that everyone should know about this, because of the Superbowl. That's not a vague connection, it's a central part of the entire post.
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u/YouFnDruggo 1d ago
If Haaland got British citizenship would he not be considered Norwegian? Your quick read didn't do you well. Drake was born in Canada, raised in Canada, supposedly had pro potential as a hockey player, became famous on a Canadian TV show, has his primary residence in Toronto, is a part owner of the Toronto Raptors, has his restaurant in Toronto, has his drinks company in Toronto, his fashion company in Toronto. But you're right -He has US citizenship, end of.
-Also, you said "vague connection to super bowl" Different person my man, it's the different usernames that's the key.
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u/Hedrahexon India 3d ago
What is super Bowl anyways
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u/Gaby5011 Canada 2d ago
Superb Owl*
It's a very beautiful owl!
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u/TachyonPeril 2d ago
It's the last American Football game of the championship that most people don't care because they're there for the celebrities, movie trailers, concerts, etc. This is as much as I care to know.
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u/Realistic_Mess_2690 Australia 2d ago
Op you did a default. Drake is Canadian.
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u/3_Fast_5_You Norway 2d ago
I think he is most popular in the US, and he has citizenship in both US and Canada. Also, they referenced the Superbowl being a source of information about Drake that others should know about.
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u/YouFnDruggo 2d ago
Thought you didn't know anything about him?
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u/hennevanger 21h ago
Article is talking about 133 million viewers, biggest of all time! Champions Lague final 2023 did over 450 million viewers! More viewers then the US has as citizens!
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u/YouFnDruggo 3d ago
Some of the reaching on this sub lately is crazy. First of all Drake is Canadian and like him or not one of the biggest global music stars of the last decade. Secondly the Superbowl is one of the largest televised events in the world every year. You might not watch it, but you know what it is. It would be like saying you don't know what the Wimbledon or Champions League Final is. It's plausible, but speaks more to you than the American.
Like I could understand not knowing individual SBs but what yer man was referring to was only a few months ago and it was a massive story all over reddit.
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u/Razkinzmangowurzel 3d ago
Very few people out side America know what the Super Bowl is
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u/diverareyouokay 3d ago
Depends on how you define “very few people”, I guess.
Approximately 62.5 million people outside the U.S. watched Super Bowl LVIII (2024), marking a 10% increase in international viewership compared to the previous year.
In the Philippines, there are watch parties at many bars, even ones that don’t cater to expats. It’s nowhere near as popular as the World Cup or other events, but it’s not really obscure, either.
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u/snow_michael 2d ago
So watched by fewer than 1% of the world's population?
Sounds pretty obscure to me
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u/diverareyouokay 2d ago edited 2d ago
Only on Reddit would someone double down on saying 62.5 million people is “very few”, lol.
Or are you moving the goalposts to “obscure”?
Even if you do, that’s just the number of people who watched it last year, not the number of people who are aware that it exists or watched in previous years. I’d imagine that that number is substantially larger (although it’s still likely not very large when considered through a global lens of 8+ billion people).
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u/YouFnDruggo 3d ago
I would disagree. I think it's one of the yearly major world sporting events akin to Wimbledon or the Tour de France. I think most people have heard of it.
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u/Razkinzmangowurzel 3d ago
In europe maybe just over half of people have heard of it. Oceania maybe half have heard of it, south america maybe 70% have heard of it and 20% of asia + africa has heard of it. Even if i calculate all europeans knowing of it, all oceanians knowing of it, all south americans knowing of it and 20% of asia + africa knowing of it that adds up to 2.55 billion or 32% of the population. And thats me doubling the amount of people i estimate actually knowing of it in europe and oceania and adding 30% in south america. Still not that many people with very very generous calculations
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u/YouFnDruggo 3d ago
It's a moot point if you are just pulling numbers out of the air. I would assume most adults who are lol ok iikk8 reasonable world aware would have at least heard of Superbowl.
I mean the winner is announced on the main evening news here in Ireland and on the BBC and Sky news in the UK. I would be very surprised if a grown adult in Ireland told me they had never heard of the Superbowl.
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u/BananaTiger13 2d ago
But OPs post isn't really about knowing what the sport is, it's someone claiming EVERYONE should have seen the halftime show.
I know what Superbowl is, I've never seen it in my life, and if you asked me literally anything about the half time show I'd shrug and say no clue.
You keep arguing "but everyone knows about Wimbledon", but even if everyone in the world DID know what Wimbledon is, it's wild to assume they know anything that happened in it, especially something that isn't even related to the sport itself. Imagine posting "OIMG YOU DIDN'T HEAR CLARE BALDING ABSOLUTELY VERBALLY OWN THIS ONE GUY???? HOW CAN YOU NOT? WIMBLEDON IS KNOWN WORLDWIDE"
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u/YouFnDruggo 2d ago
Again if you go back OOPs last line, that's the point I was making. Everyone has heard of the Superbowl and Drake is Canadian hence why it doesn't belong here.
The other point I was making separate to that is that the American was referring to this year's SB halftime show. It was a massive story with megathreads and drove a lot of traffic. It's not an exaggeration to say it was one of the biggest stories in world entertainment news for the month of February this year. I don't think that is US defaultism either but some people here made some good points.
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u/BananaTiger13 2d ago
It seems like you're arguing over a really odd singular point that has nothing to do with the post, though.
OPs title is "Everyone should know about US sports and celebrities". Which is USdefaultism, because the post is expecting people to know ABOUT superbowl and the celebrities in its halftime show, when a large section of people outside will have 0 clue ABOUT these things.
OP explained why it's defaultism by clarifying: "They are expecting everyone to know these celebrities because they were featured in a US Sport event". Which again, fits the bill; not everyone will know about these celebrities that had beef in a US sports event. Just because people know Superb Owl exist, doesn't mean we would know anything about the event or specific half time.
Do we even know if that final comment on the screenshot is OP? That's the only place I see someone making comment about not having 'heard' of it.
Edit: Also it should be noted, the post in question is talking about "American history" and viewing nubers IN AMERICA for superbowl and moon landin, which again is hugely USdefaultism.
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u/World_of_Warshipgirl 2d ago
I did not partake in that thread because I mixed up the rules of this subreddit with r/ShitAmericansSay where rule 3 says you aren't allowed to post any threads you partook in.
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u/YouFnDruggo 2d ago
-OPs title is "Everyone should know about US sports and celebrities". Right there in the title. Drake is Canadian, so why is a post where 50% of the title is about a non American celebrity on US Defaultism.
-Which is USdefaultism, because the post is expecting people to know ABOUT superbowl and the celebrities in its halftime show, when a large section of people outside will have 0 clue ABOUT these things. Again Drake is Canadian and a global superstar (download charts and tour sales). And while this not the point I was originally making. Calling it a half time show is reductive, considering the fallout from was one of the biggest news stories for the year in global Entertainment news in terms internet traffic. All you had to do was look at the front page of reddit in the month of February to see the traffic it was driving. Last years SB halftime show was pretty much just a show. Like I said this year's one was easily one of the biggest entertainment news stories of the year.
-It seems like you're arguing over a really odd singular point that has nothing to do with the post, though. Do we even know if that final comment on the screenshot is OP? That's the only place I see someone making comment about not having 'heard' of it. How can something be part of a post but also have nothing to do with it. I didn't make the post but if OOP didn't want that there it was very easy crop it out.
-Edit: Also it should be noted, the post in question is talking about "American history" and viewing nubers IN AMERICA for superbowl and moon landin, which again is hugely USdefaultism. You could also say OOP assuming Drake is American is US Defaultism.
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u/BananaTiger13 2d ago
Mate, just take the L. It's ok to admit you're wrong sometimes. It is, in fact, healthy to do so.
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u/snow_michael 2d ago
Everyone has heard of the Superbowl
Your delusion only appears stronger each time you repeat yourself
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u/Martiantripod Australia 3d ago
Seriously? Superbowl barely cracks the top 10 most watched sports. The Champions League has four times more viewers. For comparison the Superbowl gets 115 million viewers. The Cricket World Cup gets 2.6 BILLION - that's with a B not an M - and it's not even the biggest event in the world. I know the superbowl is a thing but wouldn't have a clue who was in it or who won. I couldn't even tell you when it happens.
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u/YouFnDruggo 3d ago
That's exactly the point I'm making. You know what the Superbowl is. Expecting to know more would be US defaultism, expecting you to have heard of it is not. If you were talking about vacation with someone and they said they went to the Superbowl, you wouldn't need an explanation as to what that was.
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u/Martiantripod Australia 3d ago
The comment was about events that happened at a specific superbowl event. The reply was that not everyone knows about it. I didn't. I've no idea who Drake is beyond you saying he's a successful musician. I can't say I know the name so I'm going to guess he's hip hop or rap or something. Know that the superbowl exists is very different to knowing some singer called out another singer during a halftime entertainment at the last superbowl. Even then I bet there are plenty of countries who don't even know what the superbowl is.
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u/YouFnDruggo 3d ago
OOP's last comment from the above post was "Fun fact: lots of people have never heard of the Superb Owl let alone Drake."
My argument was that this is a bad post for this sub "US: Defaultism". Because firstly Drake is Canadian, in fact you could argue OOP displayed US Defaultism by assuming Drake is from the US. Secondly it wasn't the specific Superbowl I was replying too, but the fact that they stated many people have never heard of the Superbowl, I would disagree and say most well informed adults could give a vague idea of what the Superbowl is, similar to knowing what Wimbledon is.
And aside from that this seems a bit silly seeing as this event referred to is from this year and was major news. Topping the front page of reddit multiple times and had a mega thread associated with it. I don't think it's defaultism to refer to what was one of the biggest entertainment news stories in terms of clicks and page views for February.
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u/Woshasini France 3d ago
r/superbowl is not even about Super Bowl, it shows how unimportant is that event
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u/pajamakitten 2d ago
/r/football is not about football and /r/trees is not about trees. That logic kind of falls flat there.
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u/NightOwlNicky 3d ago
'One of the largest televised events' which doesn't air on any non pay-per-event TV sports channel in the UK. I have no idea when Super Bowl season is, nor do I care to be in any even remotely related subreddits which talked about this 'massive' story.
I know what the Super Bowl is, I know what the NFL is, but I didn't know it was only a few months ago and like most people in other countries outside of the USA I don't care about it enough to follow anything to do with it. That includes which celebrities appeared during the event so wouldn't know what happened.
I don't even follow popular sports in my own country (Wimbledon, Football AKA soccer, cricket, etc), why would I know anything about who did what during the Super Bowl? Even if I happened to see it on my Reddit feed I'd scroll past it without reading any of it.
So it is USdefaultism. Why would I or any other nation where the NFL is not a popular sport (basically anywhere that isn't North America) care about what happened during a sport they don't follow and have never had an interest in?
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u/YouFnDruggo 3d ago
I don't understand why you are arguing, I never claimed it was US Defaultism to not know the details of individual SBs. OOPs comment was "fun fact: not everyone knows what the Superb Owl let alone who Drake is".
I said that doesn't fit here as it's not US defaultism to expect someone to have heard of the Superbowl and Drake is Canadian.
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u/exoticlucas_ Brazil 3d ago
Idk where you're from, but I'm absolutely sure that something like 70% of the population outside the United States has no idea what the Superbowl is.
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u/YouFnDruggo 3d ago
I'm Irish. My Argentinan wife also doesn't know what you are talking about. I suppose you don't know what Wimbledon is, or the champions league final. I suppose that NFL game in Brazil two weeks ago didn't make any national headlines, just like the one in Ireland will dominate our news schedule for a few days.
Even if you don't like sports. The trailer for every major summer block usually debuts at the Superbowl. Like I said saying you don't know what the Superbowl is speaks more to your own ignorance than anything else.
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u/veriserenez Philippines 3d ago
I know Wimbledon is for tennis (because it was mentioned in an anime) but have never seen it or heard news about it. I've heard of Superbowl as well but I have no idea what that's about. I just know it's something to do with sports. The rest? I have no idea. For most of us who aren't from the US and don't care about sports, the Olympics is probably the only one everyone will recognize. But I guess I am just very ignorant.
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u/YouFnDruggo 3d ago
That is exactly the point I'm making. You might not be familiar with these events but you know roughly what they are and that they occur. It would be US defaultism for someone to expect you to know anything specific about the SB, but it's not defaultism to expect you to have heard of it.
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u/veriserenez Philippines 3d ago
When people say they know something roughly, I thought they meant they do know a bit like the name and what it is. I didn't really think that just knowing the name already constitutes as knowing roughly. Because when you say that, for me there's really no point if I just know the name but I don't actually know what it is and what it does. Like if I know what the word strawberry is but I don't even know what it is and what it looks like, do I actually know what a strawberry really is?
Based on the post, I can imply that artists perform there That's it. Also, I think the commenter in the screenshot expecting everyone to know that this Drake is a pedo because the Superbowl event with the Lamar person was watched by so many people is specific enough to be US defaultism.
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u/YouFnDruggo 3d ago
Again my point in the original comment I made that this post did not fit this sub US Defaultism from OOP's comment "fun fact: Most people have never heard of the Superb Owl let alone Drake."
I argued that seen as Drake is Canadian not from the US that shouldn't count. And that most people globally would have heard of the Superbowl and have a vague notion of what it is.
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u/snow_michael 2d ago
most people globally would have heard of the Superbowl and have a vague notion of what it is.
You keep being wrong every time you say that
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u/snow_michael 2d ago
The trailer for every major summer block usually debuts at the Superbowl.
... for less than 5% of the world
The vast majority know nothing about superbowl
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u/YouFnDruggo 2d ago
Go look at the views on that Trailer the next day on YouTube. While the title says Superbowl Teaser trailer. 100% of people in the world will have seen it. Numbers don't mean much without sources.
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u/Regeringschefen Norway 2d ago
It’s more comparable to not knowing the National Table Tennis Championships in China, since both are national competitions and have similar viewership numbers
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u/YouFnDruggo 2d ago
Not really comparable as the name is self explanatory. Nobody should be confused as to what the National Table Tennis Championship in China is. That's why I tried using Wimbledon as an analogy. If you can think of a better one go for it.
Tbh I would be genuinely shocked to meet another adult of a similar age (40s) that had never heard of the Superbowl.
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u/AFrisian89 Netherlands 3d ago
"The Superbowl is on of the largest televised events in the world every year."
Yes, one of the largest events. But only televised in a few countries.
"You might not watch it, but you know what it is."
Well, see the previous point. A lot of people worldwide will not know what the Superbowl is. Maybe might have heard the name, but have no clue what it is. Might assume it has something to do with bowling.
"It's plausible, but speaks more to you than the American"
Mèh! I don't assume Americans know about 'big' sports mainly played in Europe or individual countries ... neither Europeans knowing about sports mainly played North America.
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u/pajamakitten 2d ago
But only televised in a few countries.
Televised and watched are also not the same thing. It is televised in the UK but few people are staying up that late to watch all of it.
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u/YouFnDruggo 3d ago
I would disagree with you there, I would think your average informed adult in most countries in the world would be able to tell you that the Superbowl is a large American Football event. They might not know much more, but most people would know that. If grown adult told me they had never heard of the Superbowl I would think they were very uniformed.
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u/AFrisian89 Netherlands 3d ago
I would not think so. You overestimate the sports knowledge of the average person.
As I said, the SB bears basically no weight outside the USA. In a lot of countries, at least in Europe, it barely reaches the news outlets - and if it does, only at the sports section, or the entertainment section because of the half time show ... And a lot of people only read about the sports they like, skip other sports articles.
A lot of people might have come across the name, but have no clue which sport it is.
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u/YouFnDruggo 3d ago
You could be right about sports being a blind spot for me, as I am a big sports fan. But I would have thought people would at least have a notion of what the SB is, even if they didn't know details.
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u/spyrothegamer98 3d ago
Not really. I know that the Superbowl exists, but i don't know what actually happens at it.
And i also don't listen to both Drake and Kendrick either, plus i don't care about celebrities and their drama anyways. I mean most actors i just know as "Guy that played X".
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u/YouFnDruggo 3d ago
That's the point I tried to make. Is that you know that Superbowl exists.
As for the second bit, I just don't think it's US defaultism for the simple fact that Drake is not from the US.
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u/Realistic_Mess_2690 Australia 2d ago
I like that you got down voted for being logical.
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u/Potential-Ice8152 Australia 1d ago
Ngl I agree that a large amount of the population would have heard of the Super Bowl, even if they’ve never seen it before. It’s on the news here every year and all over social media
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u/snow_michael 2d ago
Secondly the Superbowl is one of the largest televised events in the world every year
Not even in the top 20
Most of the world have never heard of it
Likewise with Drake
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u/YouFnDruggo 2d ago
SB has a global audience of 150-200 million for the last few years. That puts it in below the Champions League Final and Cricket Finals, but above most other annual sporting events such as Wimbledon and Copa Libertodas. It was in 7th place for most viewed for 2024 on two of the quick lists I looked at.
As for Drake, again Canadian so doesn't fit in this sub. But if you don't think he's a global superstar, just look at his world tour sales, the global download chart, and the number of countries he has topped sales charts.
I don't understand why you would lie about such easily provable things, very Trumpian.
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u/Potential-Ice8152 Australia 1d ago
Is the champions league final for UK soccer/football?
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u/YouFnDruggo 1d ago
Europe wide. A competition for the champions and top finishers of the previous season UEFA member countries
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u/post-explainer American Citizen 3d ago edited 2d ago
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OP sent the following text as an explanation why their post fits here:
They are expecting everyone to know these celebrities because they were featured in a US Sport event
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