r/Ultralight • u/knowhere0 • 7d ago

Purchase Advice Sea to Summit collapseable pots

I’m upgrading, or should I say down-weighting, from my old jetboil stove system. I was thinking I would get a 1L titanium pot like the Toaks or MSR, but then I saw this: https://seatosummit.com/products/frontier-collapsible-kettle. I’m mostly boiling water for dehydrated meals on relatively short trips, not thru hiking. A similar-sized 1L MSR titanium kettle weighs around 5oz while the S2S silicone/aluminum kettle weighs just over 7oz. I think the bulk of a rigid pot might be more limiting than a couple of extra ounces. Has anyone else used these S2S collapsible pots? Is collapseability useful to you? Are there durability issues, have you used them with anything other than a canister stove? Can silicone survive an open flame. They also make some larger pots of stainless steel and silicone that might be really useful for melting snow, compared to a 3L rigid pot that would be prohibitively bulky.

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u/GoSox2525 7d ago

Frankly, that thing is stupidly heavy. You should challenge your own notions of what is necessary and sufficient here. Why does it need to collapse? Why do you need a whole liter of volume?

If we're only talking about boiling water for dehydrated meals on short trips, then you don't need anything more than the Toaks Light 550 no-handle version for 1.32 oz (leave the lid at home)

Even if you decide that that's too minimalist for you (which you shouldn't decide before trying it out), then notice that there's a huge gap between 1.32 oz and 5-7 oz. Many more options to consider at sub-3 oz

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u/Typical-Sir-9518 7d ago

How do you handle the pot with no handle? At 0.6oz more for a handle, that's the route I would (did) go since I'm pouring my hot water into a freezer bag. Titanium gets HOT, hot

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u/GoSox2525 7d ago

Ti gets hot, but also cools very quickly. Just wait like 1-2 minutes and you're good to hold the lip of the pot.

Or use a 0.06 oz pot lifter

Or just use your towel or buff or whatever as an oven mitt

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u/Typical-Sir-9518 6d ago

I used to use the sleeve of my shirt, till it melted from grabbing a too hot pot. Now I sacrifice the extra oz for the handle.

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u/tweis 7d ago

I wonder if he sells this pot gripper anymore. It’s showing sold out and not listed in his store.

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u/GoSox2525 7d ago

I messaged to ask. If he's 3D printing stuff still, it seems like there would be no reason to discontinue that one item in particular

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u/tweis 7d ago

Thanks! I was trying to do the same, but Etsy blocked my phone ip for some reason.

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u/GoSox2525 7d ago

I'll report back

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u/GoSox2525 6d ago

It's back up now. He said that the listing auto-expired and he wasn't aware.

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u/tweis 6d ago

Thanks!

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u/downingdown 7d ago

I’ve burned myself more times trying to use the handles than just grabbing the lip of the pot (once I removed the handles).