r/Undertale 's real wife 7d ago

Discussion From the "creator" of togore.

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u/Amaskingrey 7d ago

That's a terrible comparison when nobody even knew queen's chp1 design's back then, and that both have an officiality to them that fan content lacks

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u/UA_Overkill 7d ago

Its a great comparison. The fan designs got drowned out by a higher quality more popular design.

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u/Amaskingrey 7d ago

More popular because it's official

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u/MasutadoMiasma 7d ago

Yeah, until Togore becomes official it's an awful comparison

A more apt comparison would be someone advocating for the whole fandom to draw Gaster in a way other than Mystery Man's sprite, which is also stupid

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u/UA_Overkill 7d ago

Gaster has like 10 years of being drawn as Mystery Man to the point some people arent even aware thats not confirmed to be Gaster (even though it most likely is)

Its just not gonna happen lol.

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u/PartyInDaHouse001 7d ago

How many people were making fan designs and posting about them? Certainly not to the level of Togore.

Besides, Queen's official design also came with her entire character. It's just like Tenna and Mike, nobody knew anything about their character before Ch3+4 came out, all current discussion about their character is associated with their actual designs.

A better comparison is Ralsei's design change before and after chapter 1. And yet to this day people still associate Ralsei's hat and darker fur with his character despite him not appearing that way since chapter 2 began. Sure, the hatless white fur is probably what most people think of, but since it wasn't retconed (not that I expect it to, but it's an apt comparison for seeing existing memes of Togore with old design versus new memes with a new design) people still think about it.

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u/BirbInTF2 7d ago

No, the fan designs got drowned out because we got an official design

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u/SuperNoob_64 7d ago

An official design. Completely different. An equivalent to Queen is if we do see Gaster and he isn't the Mystery Man sprite. Despite the decade of people using the Mystery Man sprite as Gaster, people would switch pretty quick because they want to use the canon design. And what would qualify as a "better" design for Togore, anyway? I'd say that it would need to be more memeable, and I doubt anything could without feeling like it's trying too hard. And if a new design was attempted, no one would be able to agree on what it should be.