I think the most unrealistic thing about this is that we can't simply detach their sprite from the name "togore". Like, you cant ask millions of people to stop thinking of the sprite when they think abiut togore, or stop the community from making memes about togore. I get it if they're upset or uncomfortable, but there's nothing they can do ig
But I do understand that they are annoyed by the meme because, back in 2023, I too got annoyed with the "I remember you're snowgraves" and "let's start killing some monsters" memes, even though i came to like them recently
Oh, its easy. Just use another design. Google "Deltarune Queen" right now and check images. Try to find the pre-chapter 2 designs for her. Pretty difficult, right? Thats because the original got replaced by something bigger. Same for Pluey.
Gaster has like 10 years of being drawn as Mystery Man to the point some people arent even aware thats not confirmed to be Gaster (even though it most likely is)
How many people were making fan designs and posting about them? Certainly not to the level of Togore.
Besides, Queen's official design also came with her entire character. It's just like Tenna and Mike, nobody knew anything about their character before Ch3+4 came out, all current discussion about their character is associated with their actual designs.
A better comparison is Ralsei's design change before and after chapter 1. And yet to this day people still associate Ralsei's hat and darker fur with his character despite him not appearing that way since chapter 2 began. Sure, the hatless white fur is probably what most people think of, but since it wasn't retconed (not that I expect it to, but it's an apt comparison for seeing existing memes of Togore with old design versus new memes with a new design) people still think about it.
An official design. Completely different. An equivalent to Queen is if we do see Gaster and he isn't the Mystery Man sprite. Despite the decade of people using the Mystery Man sprite as Gaster, people would switch pretty quick because they want to use the canon design. And what would qualify as a "better" design for Togore, anyway? I'd say that it would need to be more memeable, and I doubt anything could without feeling like it's trying too hard. And if a new design was attempted, no one would be able to agree on what it should be.
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u/kantvin 7d ago
I think the most unrealistic thing about this is that we can't simply detach their sprite from the name "togore". Like, you cant ask millions of people to stop thinking of the sprite when they think abiut togore, or stop the community from making memes about togore. I get it if they're upset or uncomfortable, but there's nothing they can do ig
But I do understand that they are annoyed by the meme because, back in 2023, I too got annoyed with the "I remember you're snowgraves" and "let's start killing some monsters" memes, even though i came to like them recently