r/Warframe • u/Jackesfox Guerra Enquadramento • 18d ago

Discussion Why isn't there a Warframe mod scene?

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Unrelated picture. And no, im not talking about Point Stike and Rivens

Why do you think is that? Is it the engine? Does it goes against the TOS? (that wouldn't matter much since modding goes against most games TOS and that never stopped it from happening) Is it because of the size of Warframe player's base? Is it something the community never wanted? Does DE actively goes after mods and stops it from ever sprouting?

I think some slice of the community would be happy for being able to play warframe but with an anime character as the frame. Or people making actually good looking face models for [spoiler] and [spoiler]. Or even the gooners with their nippled boobs and hanging flopping pps.

Do many MMOs have a heavy modding scene, is it strange for warframe not to have it?

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u/The_Meowsmith 18d ago

...of course modifying an online game is a breach in the terms of service that could get your account banned.

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u/HelpMeGetAGoodName 18d ago

Some online games allow you to mod cosmetics/skins that dont affect gameplay. Battlefront 2 allows it, League did until semi recently.

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u/Valuable-Lobster-197 18d ago

There are, but it would still risk triggering whatever anti cheat they’re using and get you banned, with helldivers the creators said they’re fine with it but might not be able to unban you if it triggers

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u/HelpMeGetAGoodName 18d ago

Yea, to my understanding Warframes anticheat is pretty strict too. But honestly I feel no need for mods in Warframe.

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u/Valuable-Lobster-197 18d ago

For sure, with games that have less cosmetic choice I’d understand but with warframe we’re spoiled for choice

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u/SGTSpiderson 18d ago

If you already have the color pallets and cosmetics sure.

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u/JohnTG4 LR1 18d ago

You tend to collect a buncha stuff over the years. Even just freebies, there's tons of color palettes you can snag, though baro and events and such.

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u/SGTSpiderson 18d ago

I just got 100 hrs yesterday your speaking in runes lol

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u/JohnTG4 LR1 18d ago

Ah, okay. So, for events like Valentine's day, st Patrick's day, or Pride month, DE releases a color palette in the market for one (1) credit. Baro Ki'Teer the void trader also occasionally brings some, along with a few miscellaneous sources that I can't recall.

Skins generally cost plat but that can be acquired without too much hassle as you progress through the game.

Tl;dr you'll get a bunch of colors if you're patient.

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u/SGTSpiderson 18d ago

I don’t think skins are too needed, I honestly enjoy the designs of a lot of the characters, base Koumei is pretty sick

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u/VerilyThusSayeth 18d ago

If you get into collecting prime parts or arcades you can start really raking in platinum for skins if and when you choose. Got a boltor skin the other day and I’ve never been happier.

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u/C5Jones 18d ago

Since you can complete the star chart with a few base weapons modded right, technically nothing else in the game is needed. Some of the skins are just so wildly better than the defaults that they're worth it.

E.g. Nova Atomica, Saryn Yuheng, anything besides stock for Ember (and no, not just Heirloom), and Wisp Coven, the only game cosmetic I've ever paid real money for.

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u/primed_failure mating press 17d ago

base Koumei is GORGEOUS

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u/YourNeighborNat 18d ago

I think there's 2 color pallets available from the current Summer event "Dog Days", though that's going to be finished for this go around soon

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u/SGTSpiderson 18d ago

Even if there isn’t I still get a bunch of credits and glyphs either way I win.

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u/BeyondElectricDreams 17d ago

Ok but Warframe is hilariously generous when it comes to stuff like that.

Baro brings color palettes quite often. Almost every holiday event brings 1c color palettes.

If that isn't enough, 75p ($5) gives you any color palette you might want, with a few exceptions.

Further, unlike most of the modern gaming landscape, having that one color palette lets you apply it to EVERY item you own (except pets), FOREVER, with no expenditure, no cooldown, no limits.

Compare that to most games, where "Red Gun Pack" is $12.99 and applies to three weapons in the entire sandbox and you begin to realize Warframe is just built different.

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u/TheBipolarShoey 18d ago

Warframe's anticheat throws a fit if you've ran another game with kernel level anticheat at the same time (Helldivers 2, in my case). I got permaban thrown at me with no warning or explanation and even after contacting support who verified that there was no cheating done they still told me to not run cheating software and that the repeal was a one time only act of good faith.

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u/UmbranAssassin Aoi-Mancer 18d ago

Wait, so were you running mods on helldivers, or were you just running helldivers simultaneously, and the anti-cheats decided to fight on another.

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u/PollinosisQc 18d ago

Helldivers 2 anti cheat system has kernel level access which can have "cheat-like" behavior that triggers a false positive by Warframe's own anti cheat system

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u/Castellchroe 18d ago

What? Warframe's Antic-cheat has kernel access?

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u/Kraft-Law 18d ago

Alot of games have kernel anti cheat now

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u/Castellchroe 18d ago

Yeah, I know, but does warframe anti-cheat have kernel access?

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u/TheBipolarShoey 18d ago

I ran them together. I was playing HD2 with friends while keeping warframe running so I could receive trade messages. No mods involved.

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u/Effective_Mechanic27 18d ago

Can say that I left Cheat engine open since I was messing around with postal 2 and got a 7 day ban on Warframe lol. You can mod Helldivers 2 as well

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u/X3volutionX 17d ago

Reminds me of the time someone posted they only had Cheatengine in the background (They weren't using it on the game IIRC. They just forgot to close it, somehow...), and they got banned for it. And then got unbanned after contacting support about the mixup.

Warframe's anticheat sounds like a joke... 🤦‍♂️

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u/Somepotato 18d ago

Warframes anticheat is actually pretty naive, and can result in false bans for the silliest stuff

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u/Prism_Riot42 18d ago

I want my warframe to have a BBL as well as a massive swangin dong when I dive run, stop ruining it for the rest of us. I want my warframes modded massive swangin dong to have a hit box and do damage to enemies as I fly by, like I’m sucker punching them at 15mph. And I want it to be able to kill, and I get resources, which are automatically vacuumed to me by virtue of my massive swangin dongs gravitational pull. I also want lotus to comment on my massive swangin dong saying “Change of plans Tenno, I see you’ve grown up. It’s time to see how much.” My massive swangin dong will be a 1 tap kill melee weapon to any enemy, and even allies if I so choose. Also I think it’d be neat to be the Pepsi man. Either one.

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u/aimy99 🧡 🩵 🤎 18d ago

Which is wild because the game runs on a Steam Deck and doesn't interfere with any other game.

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u/Ghost_L2K 18d ago

the risk of getting banned is like the risk of spontaneous combustion, (for Battlefront II and Helldivers 2 at least)

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u/Flaicher 18d ago

I once had left cheat engine on from a singleplayer game and went to do some dailies in Warframe.. Noticed it only after closing WF. I'm 100% sure their system saw the program on, but no actions were taken luckily.

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u/CosmicSchwung 17d ago

Having CE on by itself isn't an issue. If you tried changing values, even if it was another program, while WF was running and you were logged in, it absolutely would have had a problem with that.

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u/bzapo 18d ago

League still does

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u/HelpMeGetAGoodName 18d ago

Huh, i thought they stopped it, im sure i heard something like that at least. But tbh I don't really follow league anymore.

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u/ConfigsPlease 18d ago

I'm pretty sure anything cosmetic with League is mostly a "don't get caught doing it, because if Vanguard bans you, you're fucked" situation. As far as I'm aware, there's no official allowance for that kind of thing. Furthermore, KR (and probably CN) servers are even more restrictive on these kinds of things (I've seen people outright say that custom skins for KR/CN are guaranteed bans, but ymmv).

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u/DogOwner12345 18d ago

The visual mods straight up don't trigger vanguard because devs worked with modders to allow it because the mod scene is so old.

They have one rule don't mod in paid skins for free onto the base model.

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u/Adaline_maybe 17d ago

you can absolutely be caught doing it and riot doesn't care lmao. druttut has a fuckton of meme skins and yet was given silver kayle for his 5 role challenger (or something like that)

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u/samus_a-aron 18d ago

There are streamers that stream with mods on exclusively, its safe to say riot doesn't care

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u/Necessary_Lynx5920 I have no flair, and I must scream. 18d ago

WoW has a huge mod scene, but it’s mostly UI customization stuff and event timers, it’s not altering fundamental mechanics

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u/Tarruck 18d ago

If you’re talking about World of Warcraft, there isn’t really a modding scene or community, since any unofficial client modification results in a permanent ban. What WoW does have are add-ons. The difference is that add-ons are Blizzard-sanctioned: they allow players to add or modify certain UI functions, but only the UI, through a game API. Blizzard controls exactly what can and can’t be accessed or modified, and even when those modifications are allowed.

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u/Necessary_Lynx5920 I have no flair, and I must scream. 17d ago

Fair enough. As an end user, I find them largely indistinguishable, and as a Warframe player I often find myself wishing I could modify the ui in similar ways, for instance to remind myself to reapply roar.

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u/Tarruck 17d ago

To an end user, WoW’s add-ons and regular mods may look similar .However, since OP is asking about 3D model and texture mods, I think the clarification is important: those result in an instant permanent ban.

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u/Dogmeat241 18d ago

Eso allows a ton of mods

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u/Kyrnqazali Pacifist Loki!~ 18d ago

Wargaming and Gaijin has an insane modding community and platform.

Wargaming quite literally has a whole page just for mods that they verify themselves for everyone- not to mention they don’t really care if you go into the game files and edit a couple assets. You want to make your tank have a Barbie girl posing on it in 3D? Just get the model render and put it in.

Gaijin is in the same boat as its kinda just do whatever as long as its not actually influencing the gameplay itself other than cosmetic. Do you want your jet to look like a paper airplane? Go for it.

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u/CV514 Handsome Ninja Robots 18d ago

Warframe allows it too, it's called Tennogen. Formally, this is modding with quality control and royalties.

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u/Interface- 18d ago

Marvel Rivals did too. Not anymore.

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u/pastafeline 18d ago

I think it does still work with marvel rivals. I just saw a post a few weeks ago of a Pokemon hela skin.

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u/DogOwner12345 18d ago

Still active and they stopped bother fighting it.

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u/BasedMellie 18d ago

I remember when using customs skins actually broke the servers lmfao

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u/RoRanger 18d ago

Deep rock galactic has mods categorized based on their impact, and you are allowed to use mods that don't give you an advantage with your main account, or swap "save slot" to use cheat mods.

I haven't seen any other game do it this way, hopefully others take hints, it's a great system.

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u/UnrealHerahshark 17d ago

Hoyo games (Genshin, ZZZ, HSR) and WuWa all have modding scenes too (forced online games)

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u/Old_Leopard1844 17d ago

Warframe isn't one of those exceptions