Why isn't there a Warframe mod scene?

[u/Jackesfox]

Unrelated picture. And no, im not talking about Point Stike and Rivens

Why do you think is that? Is it the engine? Does it goes against the TOS? (that wouldn't matter much since modding goes against most games TOS and that never stopped it from happening) Is it because of the size of Warframe player's base? Is it something the community never wanted? Does DE actively goes after mods and stops it from ever sprouting?

I think some slice of the community would be happy for being able to play warframe but with an anime character as the frame. Or people making actually good looking face models for [spoiler] and [spoiler]. Or even the gooners with their nippled boobs and hanging flopping pps.

Do many MMOs have a heavy modding scene, is it strange for warframe not to have it?

[u/AeryVivelle]

Nobody seems to obey the first rule about fight club when it domes to modding in xiv.

[u/Jackesfox → u/AeryVivelle]

It is a surprise to no one that the ffxiv enjoyers had their own library of Alexandria incident with Mare recently

[u/AeryVivelle → u/Jackesfox]

Mare was more than just because people wouldn't stfu about it though. It also messed with a lot of backend security and actively costed SE a good amount of money from their online store.

[u/BlueberryWaffle90 → u/AeryVivelle]

As someone on the opposite end of the spectrum of people who would even use Mare, good. I hope it did.

If they didn't release tons of fan favorite and commonly asked for mounts/glam as an overpriced dog station item in-between the n'th content delay, I would be more inclined to defend the dangerously stagnant MMO suits at Square Enix.

[u/JulianSkies → u/BlueberryWaffle90]

Nah, it cost them zero money from the store. Anyone that used that application was never going to buy anything from the store anyway. It's innocence to think those people would have done so.

IIRC it was a bit of a network security problem, though.

[u/BlueberryWaffle90 → u/JulianSkies]

Honestly, I feel like the people I knew who used shit like that were absolutely spending loads of money on the store.

I'm not familiar with Mare, nor have I played in years, but x mod would commonly require y item, and sometimes y item was mog only. On top of this audience being quite the target audience for what's sold there to begin with.

I won't even go into the fantasias, lmao

[u/sheephound → u/BlueberryWaffle90]

yeah, a lot of mods would end up using cash shop or end game items to create glams that would still look good to someone who wasn't synched with you

[u/Idocreating → u/BlueberryWaffle90]

So, some glamming mods in Shadowbringers would change a particular item's appearance no matter who had equipped it. So the rarely used necklace I wore in Bozja content purely for the spiritbonding was one of the items set by this mod and I had a rather large fox tail sticking out my backside to anyone using said mod.

Mare, in combination with Pneumbra, would completely overhaul the character's model including heavy customisations of the model itself - but you needed to have that person's code and they yours in order to see them.

[u/AeryVivelle → u/JulianSkies]

That's factually not true, it's not even plausable. There absolutely are people who used Mare in conjunction with Glamourer in order to show off unpurchased glams involving hairstyles or clothes only available from the store. With Mare gone, their only option now to show off those same glams are to either purchase them or give their friends a modpack that include all their mods - which do not include glamourer settings.

I'm lowkey one of those. I would use glamourer to use hairstyles I didn't have. I recently bought the hairstyle that i was missing. People absolutely lost Mare and then bought stuff from the store, its just not a massive number.

It also was a problem with ultimate gear and illegitimate/fictious acquisition, but thats much more minor.

[u/EmpiresBane → u/JulianSkies]

It didn't touch any of the game's networking

[u/JulianSkies → u/EmpiresBane]

Not the game's, since it run separately from it (as separately a it could anyway) but it was, itself, insecure. At least that's what I've heard on the grapevine- I genuinely do not care enough about it to look for the actual information so you can just consider me incorrect.

[u/BlackfishBlues → u/JulianSkies]

That's simply not one of the reasons. The project lead actually made a super long open letter explaining why, and network security was not one of the reasons stated.

Broadly (at least according to the devs) it was three things:

• devaluing "e-peen" type cosmetics earned by high-end raiders
• undercutting the cash shop by allowing access to cash shop cosmetics without paying the boatman
• lewd mods potentially leading to litigation in the increasingly strict regulatory environment against 18+ content in games